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Lt. Commander
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# 11
06-20-2011, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Katic View Post
Here's what I think:

We (the KDF) should seize and claim Empok Nor for our own, we will rechristen it yoDjuH'a' vo' 'Iw. It's very name will freeze the hearts of our enemies.

It would only require the alteration of one mission Fed-side (the Long Night, make it some other Cardassian Station left over from the Dominion War set in Zeta Adndromedae), the art assets are already in the game, and the upcoming revamp of DS9 for the next FE could benefit us as well.

We should also seize a former Reman base ala Frozen, a Romulan D'Deridex Cruiser buried in an asteroid, with fully functioning cloaking device, would make an excellent advanced operations base in either the Psi Velorum, or Iota Pavonis Sector blocks, and again, the art assets are already there.

Throw in the long-promised KDF version of Diplomacy, and we could even get our own version of the Diplomatic Transwarp accolades (to Ganalda, Empok Nor, & ~buried D'Deridex~ respectively).

And, because we'll be gaining access to all sectors but Sirius, we could even mount a campaign for our own Advanced Heavy Battle Cruiser Retrofit with Sector-Transwarp.

All this would be possible with relatively little investment from Cryptic, I think, at least, little investment compared to creating two brand new KDF Stations, with their own assets, layouts, etc..
I like those ideas. Especially the Empok Nor idea. Maybe they would consider doing something like that when they get around to the DS9 Fleet Action.
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# 12
06-20-2011, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mister_dee
An alternative I proposed when the Romulan Weekly series launched along with an additional sector open for KDF players was to place a carrier as a new "Solar System" there.
Carriers are really large flagships intended for operations far away from Klingon space and have docking facilites for other ships so they can be serviced and resupplied.

http://www.subspacecommunique.com/co...on-voquv-class

So why not do exactly that?
Put an NPC carrier that is escorted by a bunch of NPC ships into a new section in the newly-opened sector blocks that is available to KDF players only.
Have the smaller ships patrol the area around the carrier where you can dock.
Use the existing interior for Klingon ships and place several NPC vendors and possibly Quest Givers throughout the interior.

Voilą, credible new bases for the KDF.
but thenm the federation will scream "See Carriers are OP because they are just as powerfull as starbases!!"
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# 13
06-20-2011, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Koopa27 View Post
I dont see how they could make that work. After all the two sides are at war. The only reason we share Drozana is because neither side runs it. DS9 is clearly in the hands of the federation.

I'd love to see 1 or 2 new ones spread out through the galaxy though. I dont know how they'd make that work either, since you'd have a kdf base or station in someone else's territory
DS9 has Klingon Vendors setting up shop there and NPCs visiting. They probably could still visit the Promenade and Quark's.
Exchange/Bank might be accessible to them, but not Ops and as I said earlier, they might need to have separate shipyards.
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# 14
06-20-2011, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Staran View Post
but thenm the federation will scream "See Carriers are OP because they are just as powerfull as starbases!!"
Fine, make a better proposal.
I'm done.
There is a differenece between a big ship that can support a handful of ships with a whole lot of transports going back and forth between it and an actual base and the actual base itself.
Besides to be as powerful as a starbase it would have to be as tough in combat, which is nonsense.
But please if you, think this is an argument against it, I'd like to hear your counterproposal.
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# 15
06-21-2011, 05:21 AM
First, it is a joke. I think it is a good idea.
But having a carrier as a base doesn't work all the time.
I would think that those cloaked nausicain bases would work better in the more defended places
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# 16
06-21-2011, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Katic View Post
Here's what I think:

We (the KDF) should seize and claim Empok Nor for our own, we will rechristen it yoDjuH'a' vo' 'Iw. It's very name will freeze the hearts of our enemies.
That's not going to happen. Cryptic will not take an iconic Federation location and hand it over to a minority of the player base.

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We should also seize a former Reman base ala Frozen, a Romulan D'Deridex Cruiser buried in an asteroid, with fully functioning cloaking device, would make an excellent advanced operations base in either the Psi Velorum, or Iota Pavonis Sector blocks, and again, the art assets are already there.
That'd be cool though.

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Throw in the long-promised KDF version of Diplomacy, and we could even get our own version of the Diplomatic Transwarp accolades (to Ganalda, Empok Nor, & ~buried D'Deridex~ respectively).
I'm all for currently faction unique abilities like diplomatic transwarp accolades being made available to all.

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And, because we'll be gaining access to all sectors but Sirius, we could even mount a campaign for our own Advanced Heavy Battle Cruiser Retrofit with Sector-Transwarp.
Yeah, make a KDF Excelsior, I think it's time.

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I would think that those cloaked nausicain bases would work better in the more defended places
Now THIS would be five different kinds of awesome.
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# 17
06-21-2011, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mister_dee
An alternative I proposed when the Romulan Weekly series launched along with an additional sector open for KDF players was to place a carrier as a new "Solar System" there.
Carriers are really large flagships intended for operations far away from Klingon space and have docking facilites for other ships so they can be serviced and resupplied.

http://www.subspacecommunique.com/co...on-voquv-class

So why not do exactly that?
Put an NPC carrier that is escorted by a bunch of NPC ships into a new section in the newly-opened sector blocks that is available to KDF players only.
Have the smaller ships patrol the area around the carrier where you can dock.
Use the existing interior for Klingon ships and place several NPC vendors and possibly Quest Givers throughout the interior.

Voilą, credible new bases for the KDF.
Very nice idea!

Jembot: Empok Nor is an abandoned cardassian mining station. The True Way use it, but it could easily be used by the Klingons as a base.
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# 18
06-21-2011, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mindmage View Post
Very nice idea!

Jembot: Empok Nor is an abandoned cardassian mining station. The True Way use it, but it could easily be used by the Klingons as a base.
Really? *double checks*

Oh, wow, okay, in that case good ideas all around.
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# 19
06-21-2011, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Staran View Post
First, it is a joke. I think it is a good idea.
Oookay, I'll then I shall say thanks but I'd also like to propose the use of an emote next time.
Sometimes irony is so ironic it's actually overlooked.

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Originally Posted by Staran View Post
But having a carrier as a base doesn't work all the time.
I would think that those cloaked nausicain bases would work better in the more defended places
I assume you are referring to those asteroid bases we saw one of in Enterprise:"Fortunate Sun".
Well those obviously only work when there are asteroids around so what do you do when you don't have those available?
You'd still have to bring in ships and personnell to actually build the base.
In case of the Nausicaans that means doing so without cloak.
When you put them away from the shipping lines like on "Enterprise" you might pull it off but doing so after an area of space is crawling with police forces would be very tricky.

One of the pieces of info that are the reason why I linked to the site was the the Klingon carriers actually have a cloaking device.
Appearently it is one that does not work in any kind of combat environment so I'd like to call it a "strategic cloak".
So you could get the carrier in place along with an entire fleet without being detected.
And unlike an asteroid base it would be mobile.
Meaning when you're detected you're not stuck and have to adopt a bunker mentality, which according to the "IKS Gorkon" Novel series, the Klingons dislike anyway.
And if you find you have found a godd place you can still consider building a base there, with teh carrier (or carriers) being the provisional beachhead into enemy space.
And regular supply line from Ganalda to the forward carrier bases would make it possible to reverse the transport raid situation we have now and have Starfleet engage those as well (and allow KDf warriors to defend them when that option becomes available).
It would give a far greater feeling of an actual war going on.

But I really love Katic's idea too.
It has flavour and possibly some cool missions too (I meaning kicking the True Way out is a great idea) and since this game is instanced it is easily done without disrupting the Federation side if things.
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# 20
06-21-2011, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mindmage View Post
Very nice idea!

Jembot: Empok Nor is an abandoned cardassian mining station. The True Way use it, but it could easily be used by the Klingons as a base.
Very easily. I don't think the KDF would have much trouble kicking out the True Way
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