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# 11
06-22-2011, 02:21 PM
In my experience, many E v S combats end with a win for the Science Vessel. But that might not be generally true.

Though of course, any E v S or E v C _can_ be a stalemate if the Escort knows when to run, as the opponent probably cannot reliable stop all running.

But C v C, C v S, S v S, it doesn't seem likely you get a definite result, unless the players have really unusual DPS oriented builds that omit most healing options.
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# 12
06-22-2011, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceroid View Post
I'm thinking it goes like this (assuming both players are of similar skill level/build quality):

E = Escort
S = Science
C = Cruiser

E v E = Even Fight
E v S = Stalemate
S v C = Stalemate
S v S = Stalemate
C v C = Stalemate
E v C = Cruiser will nearly always win


Not saying that this will always happen, but 9 out of 10 times it will probably be like this.
Damn I always forget to run in 1 v 1. I just do not like running it is like a mulligan. That is why I am above average in an escort. I guess that is one bad habit that is left over from being a cruiser pilot for so long.
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# 13
06-22-2011, 05:13 PM
We've all been here once.

PvPer 1: "Ha ha ha, I can take you in 1v1, I bet you suck on your own."
PvPer 2: "Sigh, sure whatever, I'll tell you now though the score will be 0-0."
PvPer 1: "Whatever."

So PvPer 2 resigns himself to 30 minutes of pure unadulterated boredom.

30 minutes of futility and boredom later
Score = 0 - 0

PvPer 1: "This f#####g sucks!"
PvPer 2: "Couldn't you have figured that out before challenging me."
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# 14
06-23-2011, 07:59 AM
1v1 is sooooo tedious.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Alendiak
We've all been here once.

PvPer 1: "Ha ha ha, I can take you in 1v1, I bet you suck on your own."
Yep, been there! My sci intrepid vs their cruiser. I won, and they had to eat humble pie hahahahaha. Boosh!
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# 15
06-23-2011, 08:12 AM
Now this thread is a typical example of someone making a suggestion and a bunch of nay sayers sharpens their forks, because .... well, because ....

No one is being forced to do 1vs.1, and i think it's a good idea.

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Originally Posted by gaius View Post
STO was never balanced for 1v1, is not balanced for 1v1 and hopefully will never be balanced for 1v1. And all those players out there trying to build 1v1 setups while they don't even know how to spell synergies should just stop. Yes, you're sucking at 5v5 because your build sucks. Stop trying to be good at 1v1 and start thinking about team setups. While you're at it, get a good team. QEW and TSI have demonstrated how well those synergies can work in a great 5 player team.
Yeah MMOs are all about team playing, using voice chat, doing Raids (STFs), and bashing people who like to play different.

Live long and prosper.
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# 16
06-23-2011, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by amidoinitright View Post
true. But no one wants to have an Engi-cruiser duel. Not twice, anyway.
Has anyone really had one once? I mean I've started several, but has anyone actually finished one? I usually ignore the other cruiser and go fight someone else.
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# 17
06-24-2011, 12:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yreodred

Yeah MMOs are all about team playing, using voice chat, doing Raids (STFs), and bashing people who like to play different.

Well the whole team part is already in the name, "multiplayer".

But anyways... 1on1 are boring mostly stalemates. esc vs esc can be okay i guess. PvP is supposed to be 5on5 but even then how "balanced" is the game?

Lets be frank, this game isn't balanced for pvp at all! :p
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# 18
06-24-2011, 12:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by inktomi19d View Post
Has anyone really had one once? I mean I've started several, but has anyone actually finished one? I usually ignore the other cruiser and go fight someone else.
I've "finished" one. :p

Had him drop me below 50% (or whatever it is) and then i rammed him = success!
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# 19
06-24-2011, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by thamupp View Post
Well the whole team part is already in the name, "multiplayer".

But anyways... 1on1 are boring mostly stalemates. esc vs esc can be okay i guess. PvP is supposed to be 5on5 but even then how "balanced" is the game?

Lets be frank, this game isn't balanced for pvp at all! :p
So 1vs1 isn't multiplayer?
(doesn't it require two people to share the same game?!?)

What's the problem if he wants 1vs1 matches, it doesnt mean that you have to participate.


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# 20
06-24-2011, 07:37 AM
I was thinkingmore in the lines of communication, working together sort of multiplayer but i guess that works too...

Theres no problem just the fact that 1on1 sucks. And if 5on5 balance is messed up 1on1 is the biggest joke ever.

I can beat you all, bring a cruiser and bore you all to death. Win? No? Ok.
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