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Lt. Commander
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# 11
06-29-2011, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Commadore_Bob
What probably took Sony so long to get back up and running was replacing all that old hardware with new hardware that would run better security software. But as you and I have pointed out, look at their conquests: Sony (old tech), Wii (open network with no personal info), a police department (where the IT guy is the person standing closest to the server at that time).

Who didn't they get into? HP, Apple, IBM, Dell, Cisco, Microsoft, the Department of Defense, NSA, etc.....
DoD servers are some of the toughest out there to hack....but only the stupid try right now....

They can label you a terrorist, and pretty much legally do anything they want to you....
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# 12
06-29-2011, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Sural_Argonus
DoD servers are some of the toughest out there to hack....but only the stupid try right now....

They can label you a terrorist, and pretty much legally do anything they want to you....
My point was this group was picking on the weaklings of the networking world. They got lucky Sony was using 1990s tech for their network. Otherwise they'd have nothing to crow about.
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# 13
06-29-2011, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Commadore_Bob
My point was this group was picking on the weaklings of the networking world. They got lucky Sony was using 1990s tech for their network. Otherwise they'd have nothing to crow about.
Oh I realize that, Bob....was just going slightly off on a tangent there.
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# 14
06-29-2011, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sural_Argonus
Oh I realize that, Bob....was just going slightly off on a tangent there.
I hate tangents. Cotangents are fine though...
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# 15
06-29-2011, 09:06 PM
the guy that got caught has ausperger's (sp) , high functioning autism, if he was a member or not doesn't really matter, hopefully he gets help, and maybe can function in society one day.

everything can't be negative might have been the best thing to happen to that guy in the end.
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# 16
06-29-2011, 09:11 PM
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the guy that got caught has ausperger's (sp) , high functioning autism, if he was a member or not doesn't really matter, hopefully he gets help, and maybe can function in society one day.

everything can't be negative might have been the best thing to happen to that guy in the end.
Which I claim BS on. I'm sorry, but how many people do you know with those conditions are capable of using a computer PERIOD much less write hacker code?

If he has the conditions, I pray for him. But I don't think he's the guy they are looking for.
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# 17
06-30-2011, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Commadore_Bob
Which I claim BS on. I'm sorry, but how many people do you know with those conditions are capable of using a computer PERIOD much less write hacker code?

If he has the conditions, I pray for him. But I don't think he's the guy they are looking for.
the one he has is the high functioning type of autism, the savants, and such... computers is probly ALL he knows. probly doesn't even see the code the same way we do.

if its just auspergers thats more characterized by abnormalities of social interaction and communication that pervade the individual's functioning, and by restricted and repetitive interests and behavior

not going to go back and reread that, but i thought it said he had that and high functioning autism...
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# 18
06-30-2011, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Commadore_Bob
Which I claim BS on. I'm sorry, but how many people do you know with those conditions are capable of using a computer PERIOD much less write hacker code?

If he has the conditions, I pray for him. But I don't think he's the guy they are looking for.
Sorry, but I'm going to have to call you out on this one.

Aspergers Syndrome (and other high function autistic spectrum disorders) are actually the ones where the individual is, for want of a better term, almost "normal". High function mean, in relation to ASDs, that the individual has a high level of cognitive function and is less affected by their condition. Low function or severe autism are the levels where the individual is unable to function in normal society, though this can be helped with specialist assistance to the point where many can live productive and happy lives (with help).

Autistic people basically have brains that are wired differently from "normal", the most common problem they have is over-stimulation in that all their senses are permanently on (a good example would be a crowded room with several conversations going on, a normal person would hear only a background noise, and autistic person would hear all the conversations at once and not be able to block it out). The other common factor in autism is varied cognitive development. Most people have generally balanced abilities where as an autisic person can have limited skills in one area (commonly communication and social skills) while being highly skilled in others (again commonly spacial acuity and logic). They also often suffer from obsessive natures and will often focus on a single mania (such as train spotting or computer related hobbies).

So if this person does have Aspergers syndrome then I wouldn't be at all surprised if he turned out to be a hacker as it would match the common profile, though of course, if he is undiagnosed then an assessment would have to be carried out.

And finally, how many people do you know with aspergers who can use a computer, at least one more, since I have Aspergers and I have a degree in games design.
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# 19
06-30-2011, 03:14 AM
Even low functioning autistics can generally use computers with some assistance. Last year my work had an interesting service call from an assisted living home primarily for autistics, they have a special blackbox setup specifically to let the residents get on the internet and play games without getting overwhelmed by icons and options. Also made fixing them a royal pain.

The only reason I'd call BS is that people who actually have Asperger's are far outnumbered by people who claim to have it, and the circumstances of the courtroom diagnosis are far from clinical rigor. There's a few points that he falls on the HFA side of rather than AS, but at that point we're quibbling over semantics, because an autism spectrum diagnosis is still reasonable, even if an Asperger's one is questionable.
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# 20
06-30-2011, 05:02 AM
I was actually being critical of the autism claim rather than the aspergers claim. I'm not a doctor, so I could be wrong. It just it sounded like an excuse for his behavior that was made up on the fly.

I know some autistic people and none of them have the skill set to even use a computer much less engage in hactivism. Even if it is high functioning autism, he still had to make the concious choice to participate. If he was tricked into it by these LulSec guys, that just makes me hate them more.

My issue is we continually see stories where people are arrested and the first thing they do is point to some medical condition to explain their behavior. What about all those with the same condition who DON'T do that? You still have to have personal responsibility.
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