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The Light Cruiser is an interesting ship and it's one that is immediately outclassed by pretty much any other ship in the game.


So I'd like to suggest a higher tier version, specifically, the Soyuz Class. I think it'd be an interesting mix of cruiser and tactical roles- not nearly as bulky as a cruiser, but not as fast or as combat oriented as an escort.


Also, the Soyuz design is awesome, and I really think it'd be a disservice to just make it another skin for the Miranda.
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# 2
07-25-2011, 03:09 PM
Personally I feel that there should be endgame variants for every ship. Sorry, but this probably won't happen. As for me, I would like the Light Cruiser to be the middle road between Science, ENgineering, and Tactical, kinda like a Fed BOP.

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# 3
07-25-2011, 08:39 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing a light Cruiser refit at Tier 3 or 4.
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# 4
07-26-2011, 02:49 AM
Why would there be a variant of the Miranda with large sensor arrays replacing the weapons rollbar be a higher tier cruiser?

"As a result, the art department was asked to modify an already existing USS Reliant miniature from Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, minus the roll bar and with new sensor turrets, docking port and bridge."

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Soyuz_class

It would work as a T2 Science ship but anything beyond that makes little sense.
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# 5
07-26-2011, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by pdidy View Post
Personally I feel that there should be endgame variants for every ship. Unforunately, the canon nazi's won't allow this. Sorry, but this probably won't happen. As for me, I would like the Light Cruiser to be the middle road between Science, ENgineering, and Tactical, kinda like a Fed BOP.
I have been called "Canon-Nazi" more then once and still I feel the same way.
The ship balance is already way out of the line, I dont see a Defaint or an Intrepit or the evolutet version of a 300 years old Vulcan ship... or a BoP en par with Souvereigns, Prometheus..s.. Galaxys ect in Canon.
But its a good thing that they are in the game because it means more variaty = more fun.
For those smaller/lowe tier ships that are more out of line, well there have been litarally THOUSANDS of suggestions how to make that work... from little "Squads" working like the Prometheus MVA (one Miranda may be a little underpowered, but three MIGHT be more suitable) up to highly specialised ships that have no chance in 1 vs 1 but can have a bigger impact then a "usual" ship in teams.
As a Klingon player I wouldnt even have an issue with the Mirranda beeing kind of a BoP-equvalent with universal slots (of course without battlecloak, that one woulndt fit there).
There are A LOT of possibilitys.

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I wouldn't mind seeing a light Cruiser refit at Tier 3 or 4.
I still dont see any sense in adding lower tier ships.
I have 9 characters, the LOWEST is Commander 8 (since yesterday) and I still dont see need for more lower tier ships.
Honestly, I make more then a rank per day, and I mean on a day I actually work 8-12 hours before. So for what do we need more ships to fly a few hours if we still have lack of variation beyond the t5 ships we actually KEEP for a while?
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# 6
07-26-2011, 06:03 AM
Hi. yes. canon nazi here. I have a complaint about that:

Why make a new ship? better go advocate for a holo emitter skin....
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# 7
07-26-2011, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pdidy View Post
Personally I feel that there should be endgame variants for every ship. Unforunately, the canon nazi's won't allow this. Sorry, but this probably won't happen. As for me, I would like the Light Cruiser to be the middle road between Science, ENgineering, and Tactical, kinda like a Fed BOP.
Im a cannon Nazi and you no what I wouldnt mind seeing all tiers of ships for any rank. However every ship would need its own special thing to it to make them all different.
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# 8
07-27-2011, 01:30 AM
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I still dont see any sense in adding lower tier ships.
I have 9 characters, the LOWEST is Commander 8 (since yesterday) and I still dont see need for more lower tier ships.
Honestly, I make more then a rank per day, and I mean on a day I actually work 8-12 hours before. So for what do we need more ships to fly a few hours if we still have lack of variation beyond the t5 ships we actually KEEP for a while?
Of course you don't. You are not playing at those leves anymore. I sometimes go back and create a new character and using the same old designs only at specific levels over and over again gets kind of old.
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# 9
07-27-2011, 09:01 AM
Isn't a Science ship just a Light Cruiser? They're smaller and faster than their cruiser counterparts but can take more punishment than the Escorts. Seems like a decent middle ground to me.
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# 10
07-27-2011, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Kerrus View Post
The Light Cruiser is an interesting ship and it's one that is immediately outclassed by pretty much any other ship in the game.


So I'd like to suggest a higher tier version, specifically, the Soyuz Class. I think it'd be an interesting mix of cruiser and tactical roles- not nearly as bulky as a cruiser, but not as fast or as combat oriented as an escort.


Also, the Soyuz design is awesome, and I really think it'd be a disservice to just make it another skin for the Miranda.
...But there's a problem with this.

The Soyuz-class was too old for service 40 years before this game. It's a Tier 5 Constitution situation - There's only so much you can do with a ship before it's just too old. And the Light Cruisers, primarily the Miranda, were old when the Constellation-class was new, and you don't ever see Constellations.

It's just too old, especially for a T3 or T4 ship.
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