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# 1 MVAM VS. Defient-R
08-02-2011, 02:41 AM
As a Tac main these are my 2 favorite choices. the decloak-alpha of the Defient-r is awesome but after that.... I've agonized over this decision! I was totally in Love with the Defient-r, and then Mvam flirted with me. after the decloak-Alpha of the defient (untill recloak) your left with a slightly more robust (Beta-command) section on the Mvam. I switched to Mvam, the T3 sci slot (Grav well) and all the manuverability (-toughness and -cloak) was more then enough to make me a convert... just looking for other opinions/thoughts.

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-Adamma
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# 2
08-02-2011, 02:51 AM
I tell this to everyone when I fly an escort i feel naked without a cloak. Def R is my preference. However if your going naked in the MVAM i suggest photonic shock wave for added defense in lieu of gravity well
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# 3
08-02-2011, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rlaffargue
I tell this to everyone when I fly an escort i feel naked without a cloak. Def R is my preference. However if your going naked in the MVAM i suggest photonic shock wave for added defense in lieu of gravity well
Photonic Shockwave was my 2nd choice, but my playstyle seems to work best with GW. (GW, buff everything, alpha strike, overrun, Borg Tractor, manuver, tri-c.
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# 4
08-02-2011, 03:34 AM
I loved Defiant-R ....
MVAM came, flirted with me, and knocked my socks off !

I'm running all cannons & turrets, and was abit annoyed by the 3 tac-teams i had ... Can only use 2 ^^

SO ! I took the MVAM console off the ship and placed it on the Advanced Escort - Has same basic stats, only the mvam has SLIGHTLY more shield ...

http://www.stowiki.org/Advanced_Escort
http://www.stowiki.org/Multi-Vector_Advanced_Escort

I would have to choose a lower sci ability, but i gained a Lt. Cmd. Tac slot !
Works for me !

Hope you find your one true love
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# 5
08-02-2011, 04:33 AM
Loved the Def-R but given I don't do open pvp the alpha strike lost it's effectiveness and loved the extra dps in my opinion of the mvam.

I kind of saw it this way;

Def-R = pvp
MVAM = pve.

Although once a lone bird of prey thought it had the edge on me so mvam and whooped his *** so mvam isn't all that bad in pvp but those in the know probably know how to overcome it. I go mvam now but still have the DBB BO3 and BO1 setup which I'm thinking of taking off and having a 3rd DHC instead and more Attack patterns and rapid fire. The BO drain isn't good if you aern't alpha striking.
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# 6
08-02-2011, 06:14 AM
I prefer the Advanced Escort over the MVAE or Defiant-R. AE has the type of console layout that works best for me, allowing the use of powerful tactical abilities and offers a good balance of support abilities to counter almost any status difficulties. The MVAM console is a nice touch, but I hardly use it.
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# 7
08-02-2011, 06:20 AM
I am going to say for the Record that the Defiant-R is a dim candle to the MVAE flown correctly. Believe me or not, and play as you will certainly.

However, the skill you want is Tyken's Rift II... Try it sometime and you will know why in a real hurry.
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# 8
08-02-2011, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by V_Silverwings View Post
Loved the Def-R but given I don't do open pvp the alpha strike lost it's effectiveness and loved the extra dps in my opinion of the mvam.

I kind of saw it this way;

Def-R = pvp
MVAM = pve.

Although once a lone bird of prey thought it had the edge on me so mvam and whooped his *** so mvam isn't all that bad in pvp but those in the know probably know how to overcome it. I go mvam now but still have the DBB BO3 and BO1 setup which I'm thinking of taking off and having a 3rd DHC instead and more Attack patterns and rapid fire. The BO drain isn't good if you aern't alpha striking.
You would be amazed how many people honestly know next to NOTHING about the MVAE... It often disturbs me. That alone makes it fun in PvP but... Beams on an Escort?... Seriously? ... Ye-ah...
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# 9
08-02-2011, 07:23 AM
I say MVAM as in either advanced escort (I fly the original verison).

As for beams well a decloaking DBB BO3 with HYT2 and 2DHC of CRF2 at point blank range, yeah it works and gratifiying when a cruiser is sitting still and it pops before it has a chance to buff. Now I've moved away from the alpha strike, like I said, I've thought of taking it off. Even so I've heard many people betting beam escorts to work because they can fire more consistently. That's not to say it doesn't work for everyone though, I prefer cannons.
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# 10
08-02-2011, 07:28 AM
The MVAM is my least favourite opponent to encounter in my Defiant in PvP. ****** tough ship to kill. And still packs a serious punch. I still love my Defiant though

Choosing your fights is a gift that cannot be overstated enough.
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