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Lt. Commander
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Dear Cryptic,

Please change how the Borg shield heal proc is reported in the combat log. I'm getting sick and tired of getting accused of cheating, when multi-regenerative shield array appears in the combat log.

Thank you.
Lt. Commander
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# 2
08-02-2011, 04:53 AM
What? It works exactly like normal TSS.
Lt. Commander
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# 3
08-02-2011, 04:54 AM
in the combat log it shows up a bit weird i think, implying that you have 2 shields or what ever. looks a bit like that anyways
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# 4
08-02-2011, 12:19 PM
It's true, when the proc pops, it says:

"X damage applied to Y's multi-regenerative shield array while shielding Y"

but when the proc is going offline, it says:

"X shield damage was dealt to Y's covariant shield array - left/right/fore/aft while shielding Y"

It's bugged, the script says you have a covariant shield when you really have a regenerative shield, causing people to believe that you're using Voldemort. This has been tested.
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# 5
08-02-2011, 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BluerockBeing04 View Post
It's true, when the proc pops, it says:

"X damage applied to Y's multi-regenerative shield array while shielding Y"

but when the proc is going offline, it says:

"X shield damage was dealt to Y's covariant shield array - left/right/fore/aft while shielding Y"

It's bugged, the script says you have a covariant shield when you really have a regenerative shield, causing people to believe that you're using Voldemort. This has been tested.
bug report it and hope to hell that cryptic will actually show some love to the pvp community... at some point... -sad panda-
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# 6
08-02-2011, 06:15 PM
Yeah, I was in a match a few minutes earlier and the other team saw this and kept asking why our escort pilot had two shields. It's certainly giving people the impression that some players are cheating and using exploits.
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# 7
08-03-2011, 07:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by matteo716 View Post
bug report it and hope to hell that cryptic will actually show some love to the pvp community... at some point... -sad panda-
Maybe if you attach that a note saying that your rank pips are being shown .3658 shades off of the proper color under the lighting in a Borg Cube while inside a a Force Field Dome, if might get some attention.
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# 8
08-04-2011, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mvs5191 View Post
Maybe if you attach that a note saying that your rank pips are being shown .3658 shades off of the proper color under the lighting in a Borg Cube while inside a a Force Field Dome, if might get some attention.
roflol....Sad, but true...
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# 9
08-04-2011, 05:17 PM
Yeah, this needs to be fixed, I thought a good STO friend of mine was cheating because of this. It put quite a damper on our friendship for awhile.
We PVPers are often accused of cheating anyway, Having an error like this in the combat log gives people "proof ", & ruins peoples reputations.
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# 10
08-05-2011, 10:55 AM
It's quite easy to distinguish cheaters and good guys when reading the combat log.

Here's an example of a player that uses 3 borg set parts and a covariant shield:

Quote:
11:08:04:23:09:41.7:Evil_Escort_1,,*,Good_Friend_2 ,Antiproton Turret - Rapid Fire III,Pn.7fjaon1,AntiProton,,57.6345,644.711
11:08:04:23:09:41.7::Evil_Healer,,*,Good_Friend_1, Phaser Array,Pn.Cedjls,Phaser,,30.1011,493.462
11:08:04:23:09:41.8::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-525,0
11:08:04:23:09:41.8::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-525,0
11:08:04:23:09:41.8::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-525,0
11:08:04:23:09:41.8::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-525,0
11:08:04:23:09:41.8::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:08:04:23:09:41.8::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:08:04:23:09:41.8::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:08:04:23:09:41.8::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:08:04:23:09:41.8::Evil_Escort_1,,*,Good_Friend_ 2,Antiproton Turret - Rapid Fire III,Pn.7fjaon1,,Miss,0,0
--> Evil Escort fires at Good_Friend_2 and a milisec later his shield proc kicks in. Notice that each side is mentioned in the combat log once with a full amount of 525 and again with 225.

Good_Friend_2 heals his Covariant's left shield side by distributing shields:
Quote:
11:08:04:23:09:42.7::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Covariant Shield Array - Left,Pn.Fdl3d51,Shield,,-306.236,-524.85
The borg proc keeps on healing the shields for some time about every 0.9 seconds.

Quote:
11:08:04:23:09:42.7::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:08:04:23:09:42.7::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:08:04:23:09:42.7::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:08:04:23:09:42.7::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
Later on he uses TSS2 on himself:

Quote:
11:08:04:23:09:59.7::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-1148.72,0
11:08:04:23:09:59.7::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-1148.72,0
11:08:04:23:09:59.7::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-1148.72,0
11:08:04:23:09:59.7::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-1148.72,0
11:08:04:23:09:59.7::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-327.386,0
11:08:04:23:09:59.7::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-327.386,0
11:08:04:23:09:59.7::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-327.386,0
11:08:04:23:09:59.7::Good_Friend_2,,*,,*,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-327.386,0
Note again that it heals every facing once with a high amount and later on with lower amounts.


And now a cheater, let's call him Frank. He uses the exploit with two shields (he uses a normal shield atm.):

Quote:
11:07:19:00:25:06.3:oor_Hellspawny,,*,Frank_the_ Cheater,Phaser Turret,Pn.J4rc87,Phaser,,20.0969,422.929
11:07:19:00:25:06.3:oor_Hellspawny,,*,Frank_the_ Cheater,Tractor Beam I,Pn.25k3m8,Kinetic,,23.7721,30.6958
...
11:07:19:00:25:06.6::Frank_the_Cheater,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:19:00:25:06.6::Frank_the_Cheater,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:19:00:25:06.6::Frank_the_Cheater,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:19:00:25:06.6::Frank_the_Cheater,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:19:00:25:06.6::Frank_the_Cheater,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:19:00:25:06.6::Frank_the_Cheater,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:19:00:25:06.6::Frank_the_Cheater,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:19:00:25:06.6::Frank_the_Cheater,,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:19:00:25:06.6::Frank_the_Cheater,,*,,*,Shiel d Array - Rear,Pn.Aqaky1,Shield,,-87.3896,-166.104
His borg proc adds two times 225 to each facing.

Later on a teammate activates his TSS2 and it heals Frank's shield twice again:

Quote:
11:07:19:00:25:30.4:oor_Hellspawny,,*,Frank_the_ Cheater,Phaser Turret - Rapid Fire III,Pn.2dfjc3,Phaser,,18.5658,325.82
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-1148.72,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-1148.72,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-1148.72,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-1148.72,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-1148.72,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-1148.72,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-1148.72,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-1148.72,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-327.385,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-327.385,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-327.385,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-327.385,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-327.385,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-327.385,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-327.385,0
11:07:19:00:25:30.4::Evil_Sci,,*,Frank_the_Cheater ,Transfer Shield Strength II,Pn.R382aw1,Shield,,-327.385,0
Conclusion:
- Multi-Regenerative Shield Array is not the shield itself but the borg set's proc.
- Cheater can be identified by 8 (or even 12 for three shields) similar entries of shield healing abilities with same values
- Read the log carefully before accusing someone using an exploit.
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