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# 101
08-17-2011, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mancom
1) The combat log is not a 3rd party program, it is simply a text file created by STO. You can of course question the quality of Cryptic's code, but you cannot blame it on inaccurate 3rd party software. The combat log parsers are only there to help you read the file (but you can read it without them).

2) This is the problem with the ban on discussion of such bugs, we cannot have an open discussion about the mechanics - how it is working exactly, what you can do to avoid doing it accidentally (which is possible in this case) and most importantly what exactly constitutes proof of intentional cheating. Since we are not allowed to present what we consider proof it is not possible to distinguish between someone who gets wrongly accused because another player is reading the combat log incorrectly and someone against whom there is rock-solid evidence.
It have been mentioned in this thread that a certain combination of things can result in the 8 facing EP2S lines (something to do with Borg shield proc being active) - I have no idea how this works, never been much into the inner workings of the combat/abilities system, nor into checking combatlogs and whatnot.. Im just taking things other people have said, and speculate on that.
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# 102
08-17-2011, 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Naekuh View Post
we found out if u get a BORG PROC REGEN on shields, on the combat log it will report 8 sides facing.
Do I understand you correctly? You are saying that when the borg proc (which one? hull or shield proc?) kicks in and you then activate EPtS, EPtS shows up with 8 shield facings in the combat log?
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# 103
08-17-2011, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mancom
Do I understand you correctly? You are saying that when the borg proc (which one? hull or shield proc?) kicks in and you then activate EPtS, EPtS shows up with 8 shield facings in the combat log?
Even if that's correct (but i doubt it anyway), a cheater is easliy identified by having 8 (or 12) lines with the same amount of shield heal for every EPtS, TSS, ES, SciTeam etc. he uses / receives. And it's highly unlikely that a borg shield proc is active all the time.
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# 104
08-17-2011, 04:15 AM
Why do some still doubt it exists?
You can see 3 shields working here -> Magic
Now Borg proc, only 1 shield equipped.
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# 105
08-17-2011, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellspawny View Post
Even if that's correct (but i doubt it anyway), a cheater is easliy identified by having 8 (or 12) lines with the same amount of shield heal for every EPtS, TSS, ES, SciTeam etc. he uses / receives. And it's highly unlikely that a borg shield proc is active all the time.
True.. How often are people caught like that though?

I cant remember once where people reported seeing this in an entire combatlog.
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# 106
08-17-2011, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MelineAaele View Post
True.. How often are people caught like that though?

I cant remember once where people reported seeing this in an entire combatlog.
I gave several screenshots of those combatlogs in OPVP. Of course its not possible to make a screenshot of the log from an whole match and I think I should not post the links here.
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# 107
08-17-2011, 06:04 AM
Again, we are NOT confusing Borg Procs with Voldemort Jr. We have caught people having 8 facings. If they did it intentionally or not is an entirely different question...

For everyone here are the 8 shield facings again. This is Hax:

11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0


And here is the Borg Proc. This is perfectly fine:

11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-525,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-525,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-525,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-525,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
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# 108
08-17-2011, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gaius View Post
Again, we are NOT confusing Borg Procs with Voldemort Jr. We have caught people having 8 facings. If they did it intentionally or not is an entirely different question...

For everyone here are the 8 shield facings again. This is Hax:

11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0
11:07:31:00:47:06.6::Hax0r,P[1216101@769596 Hax0r@Hax0r],,*,,*,Emergency Power to Shields I,Pn.Am3sy81,Shield,,-1395,0


And here is the Borg Proc. This is perfectly fine:

11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-525,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-525,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-525,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-525,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
11:07:31:00:30:13.3:layer,P[33576@813892 Player@Player],,*,,*,Multi-Regenerative Shield Array,Pn.Yph4gj,Shield,,-225,0
Mind PMing me a link to this combat parser?
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# 109
08-17-2011, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MelineAaele View Post
Mind PMing me a link to this combat parser?
This is not a parser. This is straight from the STO log file.

Just don't use notepad. Get a text editor that can work with unix-style linebreaks. Otherwise you'll see the entire file as one long line.
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# 110
08-17-2011, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by WishStone
*places a basket with erasers into the thread*
Quick reminder, you folks: If you are being flamed, and you 'repay in kind' - you risk an infraction. Maybe you'd, you know, like to tidy up a bit before I go deeper into my reported posts for the day? I'd <3 that!
Why not respond to the thread/issues ?
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