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The Rhode Island is not even a overpowered ship. It may be better than any current T2 ship right now but as far as saying it's overpowered. Your all a bunch of whiners. You show me a Rhode Island ship that can defeat a T5 ship and I'll show you a Vice Admiral who doesn't know how to play the game. It's a better tier 2 ship without a doubt but guess what, people who buy things get better things, thats plain and simple. Overpowered is when you include beams that can penetrate shielding and do double the damage. Or maybe shields that can survive species 8472's weapons without even blinking.

Seriously Cryptic has to generate revenue and the way they do that is by selling things on C-Store. Nothing they have sold has been ridiculously overpowered. Truth is your all a bunch of whiners who don't want to pay for a Rhode Island but want to get it. Well guess what, if your all too cheap to buy it then get on the back of the bus and wait for it to come out in game purchase. The new Rhode Island is a great job and a fine addition to the game. It's not seriously overpowered and truth is if your a T5 captain and you can't defeat a Rhode Island class starship, take a good look at yourselves because the reality is you pretty much such at STO.

Nuff Said.
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# 2
08-21-2011, 10:56 AM
There are already plenty of threads on this subject, so please post in them rather than creating a new one just because you have something you want to say. If you think that is ok to do, then that means you also think it is ok for EVERYONE to do, not just yourself. And if that were to happen, the entire forum would be full of threads from each person who has something to say on this subject. Your voice is no more important than anyone else's, therefore you dont need a new thread to say what you have to say.

PS: It seems your thread is also "crybaby nonsense" about other people crying. So congrats on your own hypocrisy.
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# 3
08-21-2011, 10:59 AM
It is pretty overpowered, much like how much overpowered a paper cut is to a sneezing fit.
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# 4
08-21-2011, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Deanna.Troi
Seriously Cryptic has to generate revenue and the way they do that is by selling things on C-Store.
Which would be fine if this was a Free to Play game. It's not, and Cryptic need get around to releasing content and ships that are available immediately ingame for free for the majority to enjoy.

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The new Rhode Island is a great job and a fine addition to the game. It's not seriously overpowered and truth is if your a T5 captain and you can't defeat a Rhode Island class starship, take a good look at yourselves because the reality is you pretty much such at STO.

Nuff Said.
And what happens when you're in your tTier 5 ship-token reward ship cruising along, and someone in a Tier 5.5 ship comes along blows your face off with their overpowered ship? Are you going to wait and grind for weeks on end while having your ship blown up every other PVP match, to obtain the Tier5.5 ship in-game so that you can be competitive, or buy it from the C-store so you can get it straight away?

The Rhode Island is a horrible idea and sets a horrible precedent.
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# 5
08-21-2011, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Deanna.Troi
The Rhode Island is not even a overpowered ship. It may be better than any current T2 ship right now but as far as saying it's overpowered.
It's overpowered in its tier. No one is claiming it can beat up a Tier 5 ship. But there is no regular in-game situation where it has to compete with a Sovereign - it only has to compete with other Tier 2 ships. And there it's better than any other.
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# 6
08-21-2011, 11:28 AM
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It's overpowered in its tier. No one is claiming it can beat up a Tier 5 ship. But there is no regular in-game situation where it has to compete with a Sovereign - it only has to compete with other Tier 2 ships. And there it's better than any other.
This, it is definitely overpowered for it's tier. It may be a rude awakening for some people, but PvP happens at all tiers (not as often as at tier 5, but it does), and the RI is significantly more powerful than other ships of it's tier thanks to the extra LT science BO slot. It's not an insurmountable advantage, but it is definitely far too much of one.

For a tier 5 comparison, It's like giving a fleet escort "refit" an extra Commander BO slot, giving them the ability to stack 2 copies of AP: O III or access to CSV and CRF III, AP: B and AP: D III...

Or how about a Star Cruiser "refit" getting access to another copy of DEM III, A2S III or RSP III...

This is exactly what is happening with the RI, and if you can't see how that isn't overpowered then... well I can't express my opinion without earning an infraction.
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# 7
08-21-2011, 12:03 PM
I've read the anti/anti-Rhode Island threads and it's all a bunch of cry baby nonsense.
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# 8
08-21-2011, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MustrumRidcully View Post
It's overpowered in its tier. No one is claiming it can beat up a Tier 5 ship. But there is no regular in-game situation where it has to compete with a Sovereign - it only has to compete with other Tier 2 ships. And there it's better than any other.
It has the potential to be, but after a lot of analyzing, I realized that the drawback is at the Lt.Cmdr.level. Where are you more apt to spend your skill points? On a Lt Sci skill you can't utilize again until you're a captain, or on a tec/eng skill you will very well may use at Cmdr? Cooldowns on a skill that has a skillpoint of 1 is more than double the cooldown time of a skill that's trained to 9.

Unfortunately, all intital analyses and assessments of the ship were done by VA's with Boff who skills are maxed.

The strategy of where to place the skill *is* the negative takeaway. You may get the benefits in the short term, but if you decide to upgrade tiers, you sacrifice the skillpoints in the tac/eng areas, because they are Lt stations, and you won't see the LT Sci station again until Captain (Tier 4).

That said, I still think it's setting a very bad precedent for the C-Store and how ships with the potential the RI refit has. The NX, TOS, and Oberth only added very minor, non-debateable slight advantages (only very minor).

I was more concerned about the console, quite frankly. Having said *all* of that, I'm still not buying such a useless ship. It should have been able to be obtainable in game, and at a higher tier.
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# 9
08-21-2011, 12:26 PM
To Deanna Troi: The subject to this thread is flamebaiting, anda violation of forum rules. Don't be surprised by some of the reactions you get. Also, don't be surprised if the thread gets closed.

To Tikonov: Your post does not explain why you think the RI is not OP'ed. See my post for an example. I strongly recommend you edit your post so you don't get dinged for an infraction. Whether you think so or not, I believe you violated forum rules.

Of course, this is not ultimately up to me to determine if that is the case.
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# 10
08-21-2011, 12:27 PM
100% Agree with this Thread, Nothing wrong or OP with the Ship
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