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Undine... formally known as Species 8472.

What is the proper way to say it? UN-DEEN... UN-DINE? uun-DEEN? YOUN-DINE?

Who came up with that name anyway? It looks and sounds like it means "A race that undoes things"

Rather just call them Species 8472, which I frequently do since I cant decide on how to properly pronounce their other name.
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# 2
08-22-2011, 05:47 PM
I can't imagine where the name first came up, but it's a fairly common name for a water elemental/spirit/what have you from a great many RPGs. This could be the basis for using the name (fluidic space).

As to pronunciation, the most common way I've heard it is "oon-deen," however this is generally from video games from Japan, and therefore may have a slightly different pronunciation. Most of the dictionaries I've looked up have it as "uhn-deen."

Edit: a wikipedia search for Undine suggested Ondine (it did state that the two are fairly interchangeable), which are apparently water elementals from various European mythology.
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# 3
08-22-2011, 05:50 PM
I think it's pronounced UN-DEEN. UN as in run, fun, etc. DEEN as in tween, dean, mean, etc.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/undine

Referred to the IPA chart.
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# 4
08-22-2011, 06:59 PM
Thats interesting.

I like oon-deen, that makes it sound ok

un-deen makes it sound like something that has been undone like i said before lol
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# 5
08-22-2011, 07:05 PM
Undine: (un-deen) n. Formally known as species 8472.
Courtesy of Bob's guide to pronouncing stupidly named objects.
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# 6
08-22-2011, 07:37 PM
I believe T'nae calls them UN-deen in the FE series.
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# 7
08-22-2011, 07:43 PM
i thought species 8472 was their borg designation, rather then being formally know as that.
you see 7 of 9 reference a variety species a lot by their number in voyager.
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# 8
08-22-2011, 07:49 PM
No idea. The name is stupid. Some people say Un-deen, i'd prefer to say Undine. (Un-dyne)
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# 9
08-22-2011, 07:51 PM
In Teutonic folklore, undines are female water-spirits who like to associate with humans. They often join villagers in their dances and merry-making. An undine was created without a soul, but by marrying a mortal and bearing him a child she obtained a soul and with it all the pains and penalties of the human race.


From Websters dictionary:

unĚdine
noun /ˌənˈdēn/
undines, plural
A female spirit or nymph inhabiting water
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# 10
08-22-2011, 09:52 PM
Un deen...

p.s vote undine!
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