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# 61
08-29-2011, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cj_cawley View Post
Apparently, I need this to travel to Mars and complete Second Star....
Any ideas how I get this?

- Thanks
KDF version of diplomacy that'll come later in Season 4. You didn't need this status when this kdf mission came out, so I guess this is a bug
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# 62
08-29-2011, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by superchum View Post
Something to keep in mind, but, the diplomacy system is really a terrible and boring grind, with only a select few missions that actually feel diplomatic.

Please try to avoid that mistake with Marauding.
Only the First Contact missions and some of the diplomatic missions seems to be actually diplomatic. Ancestral Sin (Vulcan), Trade Deal (Starbase 39), Rescue Deferi Captives, and Standoff (Bajor) are actually diplomatic. Quarantine seems to be more of a medicine mission than diplomatic. So Diplomacy seems to be where the devs threw all noncombat missions.

I would prefer if they changed the non-combat explore missions to have appropriate commendation XP. Scanning flowers, alien lifeforms, and energy signs to be science related. Repairing damaged alien technology should be engineering related. Marauding should also have appropriate explore missions.
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# 63
08-29-2011, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PatricianVetinari
It would be nice if the Pi Canis Raids granted Marauding XP (Similar to how the Feds can play Rescue Deferi Captives (Daily) for Diplo XP). Perhaps just add it to the Path of the Warrior wrapper mission?
This is a really good idea, and I imagine it'd be a good complement to rescuing Deferi captives granting Feds DXP.
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# 64
08-29-2011, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PhyrexianHero
This is a really good idea, and I imagine it'd be a good complement to rescuing Deferi captives granting Feds DXP.
This is a really good idea, as are reconfiguring some the existing Diplomacy missions to give more appropriate Commendation xp types.

This is on my list to investigate how big a task this would be. If there's time for it and if Goatshark will let me touch his mission editor, this may be feasible for launch. No promises, but I would like it to happen.
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# 65
08-29-2011, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Heretic
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Originally Posted by PhyrexianHero
This is a really good idea, and I imagine it'd be a good complement to rescuing Deferi captives granting Feds DXP.
This is a really good idea, as are reconfiguring some the existing Diplomacy missions to give more appropriate Commendation xp types.

This is on my list to investigate how big a task this would be. If there's time for it and if Goatshark will let me touch his mission editor, this may be feasible for launch. No promises, but I would like it to happen.
Thanks guys. It would be really nice to have at launch. Hopefully Goatshark will be in a generous mood.
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# 66
08-29-2011, 06:58 PM
This all sounds really great.
Can't wait to try it.


...on a side note...

If I remember correctly, once in a interview, John Colicos commented that He and Fred Phillips (the TOS Head Makeup Artist) were pretty much given 'carte blanche' to create the look and some background for the Klingons by Roddenberry. (of course Gene added his thoughts on the matter also.)

He (Colicos) said that they were more inspired by Attila the Hun and his Hunnic Barbarians than anything else.

So Plundering and Marauding would be much more in line for the Klingon psyche, than the Samurai one.
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# 67
08-29-2011, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveyNY View Post
This all sounds really great.
Can't wait to try it.


...on a side note...

If I remember correctly, once in a interview, John Colicos commented that He and Fred Phillips (the TOS Head Makeup Artist) were pretty much given 'carte blanche' to create the look and some background for the Klingons by Roddenberry. (of course Gene added his thoughts on the matter also.)

He (Colicos) said that they were more inspired by Attila the Hun and his Hunnic Barbarians than anything else.

So Plundering and Marauding would be much more in line for the Klingon psyche, than the Samurai one.
I believe the whole idea of honor being a big part of Klingon beliefs was introduced with Worf.
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# 68
08-30-2011, 04:45 AM
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I believe the whole idea of honor being a big part of Klingon beliefs was introduced with Worf.
Every 3rd word out of his mouth was honor this and no honor that....lol
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# 69
08-30-2011, 05:58 AM
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I believe the whole idea of honor being a big part of Klingon beliefs was introduced with Worf.
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Every 3rd word out of his mouth was honor this and no honor that....lol
Well, yeah. When Klingons were introduced as allies in TNG they needed some way to make them more ... likeable, I guess you might say, to audiences.

Previously in TOS, Klingons were portrayed as violent and manipulative thugs. And yes, some of them still are. But on the whole, it's been a good paradigm shift. So I like the fact that some of the Marauding assignments will be built so that honorable Klingons will want to avoid them in favor of other kinds of assignments. Other kinds of activities will reward Klingons for thinking and acting like warriors and conquerors.
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# 70
08-30-2011, 06:10 AM
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I believe the whole idea of honor being a big part of Klingon beliefs was introduced with Worf.
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Originally Posted by LittleTerribleRomulan
Every 3rd word out of his mouth was honor this and no honor that....lol
And it's all been downhill from there. Sure, we got a little bit of that old school Klingon from Gowron and the Duras but the magic just isn't there.
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