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# 1 Defiants in Space PvP
07-17-2011, 12:04 PM
It's getting ridiculous in PvP with everyone flying in Defiants, easily dispatching PuGs like they are trash.

Cryptic, it's time you made Cruisers and Science Ships better at handling Burst Damage by these ships, or you going to call this Escorts Online?



To Clarify, this is more about Cloaked Alpha Strikes than the Defiant. It's just the Defiant has a stronger chance of pulling this off since Raptors, Escorts, Science ships, and BoPs are easily killed by such players than Cruisers, which are mainly protected by their HPs.

And if you think about it, is this cloaked ambush any different than Tacticals using Cloak and Ambush to 1-shot players in Ground PvP?


This is my point. It needs to be nerfed.
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# 2
07-17-2011, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Azurian View Post
It's getting ridiculous in PvP with everyone flying in Defiants, easily dispatching PuGs like they are trash.

Cryptic, it's time you made Cruisers and Science Ships better at handling Burst Damage by these ships, or you going to call this Escorts Online?
If escorts can't effectively burst attack pug groups, and they don't have the hull/shield to survive for any sufficient amount of time then what purpose would you propose escorts be used for? You can survive the burst attack from an escort just fine if you know how to. I'd prefer not to see escorts reduced to complete uselessness in pvp.
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# 3
07-17-2011, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Azurian View Post
It's getting ridiculous in PvP with everyone flying in Defiants, easily dispatching PuGs like they are trash.

Cryptic, it's time you made Cruisers and Science Ships better at handling Burst Damage by these ships, or you going to call this Escorts Online?
Escorts have always ruled PvP, get used to it.
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# 4
07-17-2011, 12:13 PM
Sorry... But PUG's are usually easily removed... There are plenty of both Adv. Escorts and Fleet escorts out there, so it is not like one is preferred over the other.

I've been up against Cruisers in my DefiantR... Some are easily taken down, some are not so easily removed, and some i just fly away from, the second I see them.

Blame the player, not the game.

Also... It is getting a little tiresome that PvP players keep breaking the enjoyment of the game for PvE players, because they belive that everything needs a nerf.

The above is my personal opinion, not a attempt to enrage anyone... But I am fully convinced of what I just stated.
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# 5
07-17-2011, 12:20 PM
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Sorry... But PUG's are usually easily removed... There are plenty of both Adv. Escorts and Fleet escorts out there, so it is not like one is preferred over the other.

I've been up against Cruisers in my DefiantR... Some are easily taken down, some are not so easily removed, and some i just fly away from, the second I see them.

Blame the player, not the game.

Also... It is getting a little tiresome that PvP players keep breaking the enjoyment of the game for PvE players, because they belive that everything needs a nerf.

The above is my personal opinion, not a attempt to enrage anyone... But I am fully convinced of what I just stated.
that last part, THAT i completely agree with
it's getting very annoying that the PvP players cry NERF on every little thing the devs do to the ships performance ... well some of us are only here to PvE, play the game, and have fun in general
i think they should separate PvE and PvP completely... like, two completely different versions for each ship: one for PvE and general fun, and one for PvP and the 'balanced' perspective (does that make any sense?)
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# 6
07-17-2011, 12:24 PM
Azurian cries for nerfs of many things, but especially defiants/escorts, a lot . In this instance he does not speak for the PVP community. We as a whole are not crying out for a nerf of anything that pwns us. Please do not confuse a single person's rant for the community as a whole.

Azurian, yes it's true high tier escort flyers can burn through pugs. It's the nature of that pilot's training vs. the PUGS training. It also doesn't help that the $target command was taken away so that any and every pug without voice chat will have a hard time focusing. I know I pug less and less because of that one simple command missing, meaning I'm either with my fleet or a pugmade of friends from opvp that is using 3rd party voice communication.
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# 7
07-17-2011, 12:27 PM
Again such a thread? *sigh*

Can TSI and QEW not simply adopt Azurian and have him always fly with them, so he doesn't have to lose anymore?
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# 8
07-17-2011, 12:29 PM
Maybe QEW needs another player.
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# 9
07-17-2011, 12:33 PM
Azurian, how many defiant nerf threads have you made? You just made a PSW escort nerf thread a few days ago. Instead of asking to nerf everything that gives you a challenge, how about asking the PVP community what the best strategy is to counter these things? Asking for advice is always the better option...
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# 10
07-17-2011, 12:38 PM
Or get an escort yourself and stop complaining

Just sayin!
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