Lt. Commander
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StormShade
Where? If you can't find a quote from someone at Cryptic Studios, saying that we're taking something away from ANYONE during this transition, it's because it doesn't exist.

We're not taking away the extra slots, or the liberated borg, or anything you have purchased from the store, earned through a Veteran's Reward, Tribble Playtest weekend, Referral Program, or any other program.

StormShade
You are notting "taking away" the Liberated Borg that Lifers have. Understood.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FAQ
Q: Will there be any changes to the C-Store now that STO is going free-to-play?

Yes. We'll be reviewing the content and prices of goods on offer in the C-store. This includes prices for ships at all tiers. There are currently no plans to increase the price of any premium ship. For now, we know that some previously purchasable playable species will soon be free (Ferengi, Rigelian, Pakled, Tellarite), and others (Liberated Borg, Joined Trill, Federation Klingons) will be earned through other means. If you have already unlocked access to any C-store items, including playable species, you will retain that access in the free-to-play transition.
The Joined Trill and Federation Klingons are currently C-Store purchases but will soon be acquired "through other means". Understood.
Liberated Borg Captains have not been C-Store purchases. They are with the Lifetime Subcription. A "perk" of the Lifetime Subcription. Already a "means" other than the C-Store. Understood.

Quote:
Originally Posted by StormShade

The FAQ clearly states, and I have clearly stated else where, that there will be no species available for purchase through the C-Store any longer.

No where, anywhere, in any possible way, shape, or form, have we stated that we're going to be selling perks granted to lifetime members.
You are not selling the Liberated Borg Captain, the "perks granted to lifetime members". Understood.

Ok, So the Joined Trill and Federation Klingon will be acquired "by other means".
But again, What of the Liberated Borg?

Is there any way to get a solid answer to: Are Lifetime Subcribers losing the exclusive use of the Liberated Borg as characters, which has been established by the coomon practice of them only been avaible thru the a Lifetime Subcription offer? Yes or No
Will the playable Liberated Borg be acquireable thru "other means" as alluded to in the FAQ, or will the "other means" be maintained as it is now, exclusive to a Lifetime Subcription?
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# 2
09-07-2011, 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kirian_darkstar View Post
Well maybe this will help StormShade:



So Lifers are NOT losing Exclusivity of the Liberated Borg Captain??
The Joined Trill and Federation Klingons are currently C-Store purchases.



Ok, So the Joined Trill and Federation Klingon will be acquired "by other means".
But again, What of the Liberated Borg?

Is there any way to get a solid answer to: Are Lifetime Subcribers losing the exclusive use of the Liberated Borg as characters? Yes or No
Check the Dev Tracker for Stormshade's post, nobody's losing anything, it's in the closed F2P distraction thread
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# 3
09-07-2011, 03:17 PM
Edit, realized my entire post was redundant and shed no light on this situation. Oh, except this part.

It's possible Cryptic has not decided yet on whether they will make the Liberated Borg captain available in game or not. And if they have decided to release it via in game methods, they will be smart to not say so until they are prepared to tell us exactly how, that way when it turns out to be very difficult, lifetime subscribers can still feel their investment has value in allowing them to skip that process.
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# 4
09-07-2011, 03:17 PM
I'm not sure how clearer it needs to be explained. Maybe you should take a walk and a nice drink of cola, and then come back and read those quotes.
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# 5
09-07-2011, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tricksterbro View Post
Check the Dev Tracker for Stormshade's post, nobody's losing anything, it's in the closed F2P distraction thread
The first quote IS from that very post.
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# 6
09-07-2011, 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nynik
I'm not sure how clearer it needs to be explained. Maybe you should take a walk and a nice drink of cola, and then come back and read those quotes.
Please reread it, you may be missing something.
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# 7
09-07-2011, 03:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kirian_darkstar View Post
Well maybe this will help StormShade:



So Lifers are NOT losing Exclusivity of the Liberated Borg Captain??
The Joined Trill and Federation Klingons are currently C-Store purchases.



Ok, So the Joined Trill and Federation Klingon will be acquired "by other means".
But again, What of the Liberated Borg?

Is there any way to get a solid answer to: Are Lifetime Subcribers losing the exclusive use of the Liberated Borg as characters? Yes or No
As I remember from the very beginning of the game, they woouldn't guarantee that the liberated borg would never be available through other means, so why would they now?

The real question is whether they will continue to offer Lifetime Subscriptions. As long as they do it's a safe bet that the liberated borg captain remains exclusive to it, but as soon as they don't they will have to find another method for players who really want one to get one.
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# 8
09-07-2011, 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kirian_darkstar View Post
The first quote IS from that very post.
Are you a lifetime subber,it's not clear whether you are or not, you're name's not blue. If not, why worry about exclusivity. If you are, you won't lose the Borg Officer, and since you got the Borg for free anyway, again, why worry about exclusivity.
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# 9
09-07-2011, 03:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricksterbro View Post
why worry about exclusivity.
As an appreciative reward and gratification for having plonked down $230+.
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# 10
09-07-2011, 03:31 PM
"No where, anywhere, in any possible way, shape, or form, have we stated that we're going to be selling perks granted to lifetime members."

I like this quote, but the other....

"or now, we know that some previously purchasable playable species will soon be free (Ferengi, Rigelian, Pakled, Tellarite), and others (Liberated Borg, Joined Trill, Federation Klingons) will be earned through other means"

This is what is putting a bug under my skin. that part sounds like they are sayn "Liberated Borg, Joined Trill, Federation Klingons) will be earned through other means"

However, Other means could mean Life time sub. but not limited too a LTS....I like the first quote a lot more then the 2nd one.

I do look forward to another answer.
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