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IS it worth is ti to continue to get a T2 ship if there is no way to get dilithium? I am almost there to LC and am wondering if It is worth it. Also what is the secert to getting to VA so quick I am seeing people saying they up in those ranks.
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# 2
10-03-2011, 11:37 AM
I got my T2 Cruiser last night without issue, I think the bug is with T3+ so you should be fine.
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# 3
10-03-2011, 12:08 PM
Is it a bug that you don't get enough to buy ships at promotion past LtC? Have the developers said as much? I know there's supposed to be missions and such to get it along the way but they're not hooked up. It's likely the deficit is intended and you're supposed to be making up the gap with either C-points or grinding along the way.

It's rather difficult to evaluate if the stipend you get a promotion is appropriate without the other methods to earn dilithium in-place.
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# 4
10-03-2011, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rmh1865 View Post
Is it a bug that you don't get enough to buy ships at promotion past LtC? Have the developers said as much? I know there's supposed to be missions and such to get it along the way but they're not hooked up. It's likely the deficit is intended and you're supposed to be making up the gap with either C-points or grinding along the way.

It's rather difficult to evaluate if the stipend you get a promotion is appropriate without the other methods to earn dilithium in-place.
It sounds like it's intentional, and they just haven't hooked up all the Dilithium mish rewards. I'm holding off on Tribble until we get an update with more dilithium hooked up, since as it stands now it's possible to plateau. I'm not going to level an Alt with the economy crippled.
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# 5
10-03-2011, 12:39 PM
I am almost through Commander in my tier 2 escort. Yeah the dilithium system is borked right now, but as was said above, not all the missions that will reward dilithium, nor the means to refine it, have been patched in yet. Some people are looking at it as a challenge and seeing if they can reach max level in a tier 2 Connie, or any tier 2 ship. Some are trying to do it in the Miranda. Overall I am not finding it difficult, but the loot gods have been chuckling at me (lots of useable gear but nothing fantastic like I am seeing linked in TTS) and what I do not use I recycle, and I've used those funds to buy gear to fill in gaps.

Some ways to earn dilithium once it goes into the build -

* Explore missions in star clusters.
* Possibly in some diplomacy missions. I haven't seen a mention of this, it's only my guess.
* Daily missions - The one I have access to right now awards 480 refined dilithium.
* DOFF missions - Some will no doubt award dilithium. Trade missions could be refined, while engineer missions could be raw ore.
* Storyline missions - Some will be changed to award dilithium, though I am willing to bet that it won't be excessive amounts, and only a small fraction of the total missions available.

The devs have a method to this madness. It's focusing testing on several areas, and we have found a lot of bugs that otherwise would have been passed on to Holodeck. In the next phase it will be focused on those systems and content, and again, we will find lots of bugs that would have otherwise made it to Holodeck. While it hasn't been implicitly stated that this is what they are doing (not that I have seen) it is apparent to me that it is. It's a smart approach, and I think the end result will make us far more happy with the game, than we were after closed and open betas before the game launched.
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# 6
10-03-2011, 12:43 PM
I just ran into this issue on Tribble. I wish I'd had some prior warning, but I've not been scanning the forums. It really sucked to reach Commander and suddenly realize I can't get my next ship. I've leveled from Ensign to Commander in two days, trying to get to VA as quick as I can for the rewards coming to holodeck, but this just killed my drive. It's going to make the grind to Captain so painful that I'm not sure it's even worth it now.

I think I'm going to take a break from Tribble. Maybe I'll get enough of a drive back to push my way to Captain and get a new ship then. Of course, if I get a new ship at Captain the question comes up will I be able to get a new ship at Rear Admiral - Lower Half if/when I hit it, or will I be screwed again?
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# 7
10-03-2011, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Nikodas View Post
I just ran into this issue on Tribble. I wish I'd had some prior warning, but I've not been scanning the forums. It really sucked to reach Commander and suddenly realize I can't get my next ship. I've leveled from Ensign to Commander in two days, trying to get to VA as quick as I can for the rewards coming to holodeck, but this just killed my drive. It's going to make the grind to Captain so painful that I'm not sure it's even worth it now.

I think I'm going to take a break from Tribble. Maybe I'll get enough of a drive back to push my way to Captain and get a new ship then. Of course, if I get a new ship at Captain the question comes up will I be able to get a new ship at Rear Admiral - Lower Half if/when I hit it, or will I be screwed again?
i just hit VA and since i got captain i have the Galaxy but i havent got any dilithium for promotion to RA upper and VA... so i now have 130k and cant buy the assaultcruiser -.- that really suck
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# 8
10-03-2011, 01:17 PM
HOPE they tell when they are going to fix this crap. Because until they do me and I bet a lot of people are out of tribble. I will test stuff for them but Im not grinding to test for them. A new ship should come at every promotion, to have to use a lower tier ship in the next lvl to save for the next tier ship is stupid.
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# 9
10-03-2011, 01:20 PM
I don't mind a bit of grind, TBH. I have no problem with being forced to run a few dailies or exploration missions to get the next tier ship. But those haven't been implemented yet, so I can't even do that. Until I can, I'm out.
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# 10
10-03-2011, 01:24 PM
its frustrating, once u get past Commander and can't get a better ship

Is it worth it? well I think thats an individual thing, I will grind through as long as i can, but I really hope they will fix this very soon, so we can properly test the new economic system
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