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Was discussing some really weird stuff going on, but not too sure how to report it for a ticket:

1: Getting an NPC down to roughly 30% and having one photon torp wipe your shields like you had none, and bring you down to 30-35%?

2) NPC torps randomly hitting other NPC ships? Noticed this in the Rommie missions with HY Plasma Torp.

Not sure what's up but a dev may want to check it out. Seems to happen randomly as well so no way to really recreate it; i've tried many times but have been unsuccessful. Just really weird random events.
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# 2
10-12-2011, 01:39 PM
As to your #2 HY Plasma and Tricobalt Torpedoes have friendly fire damage. Any who is too close to a HYT Plasma or Tricobalt explosion will take damage. That means Romulans can wind up frying their friends or even themselves.
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# 3
10-12-2011, 01:47 PM
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As to your #2 HY Plasma and Tricobalt Torpedoes have friendly fire damage. Any who is too close to a HYT Plasma or Tricobalt explosion will take damage. That means Romulans can wind up frying their friends or even themselves.
I'm not actually talking about collateral damage or even friendly fire. I mean literally the torp heads toward the rommie ship instead of mine. Sometimes it starts toward me, then heads toward the NPC ship. Other times it just heads towards them right off. I may as well not even be there.

I read a similar thread in Bugs but they talked about a mine field they laid down. This is without me doing anything at all. No mines, no torp spread, nothing to cause this at all. I thought maybe a BO power, or one of my own, was causing it but it happens without me doing anything at all. It's like Scramble Sensors...without me scrambling their sensors.
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# 4
10-12-2011, 01:54 PM
You know I have just seen the plasma torp issue the other night and thought I was mistaken. I wonder if it has to do with the same AI issues that are causing our Boffs to be heartless and not rez each other.
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# 5
10-12-2011, 01:57 PM
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I'm not actually talking about collateral damage or even friendly fire. I mean literally the torp heads toward the rommie ship instead of mine. Sometimes it starts toward me, then heads toward the NPC ship. Other times it just heads towards them right off. I may as well not even be there.

I read a similar thread in Bugs but they talked about a mine field they laid down. This is without me doing anything at all. No mines, no torp spread, nothing to cause this at all. I thought maybe a BO power, or one of my own, was causing it but it happens without me doing anything at all. It's like Scramble Sensors...without me scrambling their sensors.
I can confirm this. I've seen Romulan HY plasma torps do the same thing. They start moving towards me, then veer off and target another Romulan ship. No scramble sensors or anything. Very odd.


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# 6
10-12-2011, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Commodore Shrvk
You know I have just seen the plasma torp issue the other night and thought I was mistaken. I wonder if it has to do with the same AI issues that are causing our Boffs to be heartless and not rez each other.
Maybe. I was having a heck of a time the other day just trying to get my BOs to rez me! LOL Finally had to set one to a point close to me.
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# 7
10-12-2011, 02:19 PM
Roms have been giving me that problem. No HYT on my part amybe theirs so i will have to pay attention. I am at the Cardi missions now and they are getting a lot of 1-2 shot kills off on me and the BOF's.
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# 8
10-12-2011, 04:38 PM
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I can confirm this. I've seen Romulan HY plasma torps do the same thing. They start moving towards me, then veer off and target another Romulan ship. No scramble sensors or anything. Very odd.


Z
Logically, it would make sense that with friendly fire enabled, the enemy AI (including torpedoes) are now calculating threat based on their allies attacks as well. A poorly timed disruptor shot, when you haven't been firing for instance, could cause the HYT to erroniously change it's target to something generating more threat than you.

I've actually seen enemy ships open fire on each other as well, again, no scramble sensors or other threat management abilities involved...
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# 9
10-12-2011, 05:00 PM
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Was discussing some really weird stuff going on, but not too sure how to report it for a ticket:

1: Getting an NPC down to roughly 30% and having one photon torp wipe your shields like you had none, and bring you down to 30-35%?
I have noticed this aswell, mostly from Galor and Mogai Escorts. I know those ships are supposed to be tough little SOB's but I think that thedamage they inflict upon players is a little steep since my THY3 is barely taking the same amoutn of damage from them that their one shot inflicts...
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# 10
10-12-2011, 08:53 PM
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Logically, it would make sense that with friendly fire enabled, the enemy AI (including torpedoes) are now calculating threat based on their allies attacks as well. A poorly timed disruptor shot, when you haven't been firing for instance, could cause the HYT to erroniously change it's target to something generating more threat than you.

I've actually seen enemy ships open fire on each other as well, again, no scramble sensors or other threat management abilities involved...
AH!!! I think you could be right actually! Never really occurred to me. Maybe threat generators are off their poor little rockers from AI changes.

Not that i'm complaining really...better them than me after all!

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I have noticed this aswell, mostly from Galor and Mogai Escorts. I know those ships are supposed to be tough little SOB's but I think that thedamage they inflict upon players is a little steep since my THY3 is barely taking the same amoutn of damage from them that their one shot inflicts...
Yeah i got the same thing with Galor and Keldon as well when i've fought them.
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