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Lt. Commander
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[color="White"]I'm not anywhere near being able to buy the dreadnaught on tribble yet, but from the description it looks like it only has a cloaking console, no lance console, and the number of console have not been increased.

This will ruin the game for me. If I have to give up any console in my dreadnaught cruiser, my gameplay will be seriously ruined. Can anyone confirm that adding the cloaking console effectively subtracts one slot because none are being added?

Cryptic: I don't care what you have to do, but don't cripple this ship anymore. Consider that Klingon Cruisers have far more crew, much more manuverbility, the ability to mount DC and DHCs, AND CLOAK, and have the same amount of consoles that the feds have. The ship is already worse then the klingon cruisers, save for the lance.

Make the Lance and Cloak into one console, and add a console slot. Also, calling the lance an advantage is kinda a joke given how much it misses. Maybe add a [Acc] proc to it, or cut down the time and damage proportionally so we can at least use it more.
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# 2
10-14-2011, 10:28 AM
They've said that if a ship's power converts to a console, it will gain a new console slot. But, you're right, neither of us can see that right now, and the Gal-X could definitely use a boost of some kind.

I'm also a little confused what the point of the Gal-X's cloak console is, because (unless the Defiant Retrofit actually has a different console), the dreadnaught and the tactical cruiser retrofit are the only classes that can mount it... you know, the classes that specifically come equipped with a cloaking device.
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# 3
10-14-2011, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by StarkeRealm View Post
They've said that if a ship's power converts to a console, it will gain a new console slot. But, you're right, neither of us can see that right now, and the Gal-X could definitely use a boost of some kind.

I'm also a little confused what the point of the Gal-X's cloak console is, because (unless the Defiant Retrofit actually has a different console), the dreadnaught and the tactical cruiser retrofit are the only classes that can mount it... you know, the classes that specifically come equipped with a cloaking device.
I think the idea is that if you wanted, you could take the console out and put a different console in its place. The console is not solely to make the ability transferrable to another ship. While I don't care for the Dreadnaught, I could see why those that have it would want an extra console slot if the cloak is going to be a console ability.
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# 4
10-14-2011, 10:56 AM
The Dreadnaught on live does have an extra console slot for the cloak, and it is removeable. This has not transfered over to Tribble as I have looked at the ship on Holodeck and Tribble.

The lance is not a console and still part of the ship.

So really the ship has not been nerfed at all. You have an extra console slot (engineering) if you want.
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# 5
10-14-2011, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MinosOne
I think the idea is that if you wanted, you could take the console out and put a different console in its place. The console is not solely to make the ability transferrable to another ship. While I don't care for the Dreadnaught, I could see why those that have it would want an extra console slot if the cloak is going to be a console ability.
I understand the point, But I want my Dreadnaught to have every ability it has now, maybe even a buff, not to lose functionality which is what cryptic is doing. Klingon cruisers already get lots of advantages over their fed counterparts, so I'm not sure why cryptic is trying to yet again make this game more unfun then it already looks like it will be.

So many things need to be nerfed before the dreadnaught class. If the Dreadnaught loses an ability because of the cloak, then every klingon ship needs to have a cloak console as well filling up an EXISTING console slot. THIS IS UNFAIR.
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# 6
10-14-2011, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Mathandral View Post
The Dreadnaught on live does have an extra console slot for the cloak, and it is removeable. This has not transfered over to Tribble as I have looked at the ship on Holodeck and Tribble.

The lance is not a console and still part of the ship.

So really the ship has not been nerfed at all. You have an extra console slot (engineering) if you want.
This is simply untrue.

On live the ship has cloak + lance and:

4 Eng slots
2 Science slots
2 Tact slots

On Tribble the ship has cloak + lance and:

3 Eng slots ( 4 Eng slots - 1 for the new freaking console)
2 Science slots
2 Tact slots

So how is losing a console while gaining no new abilities not a nerf?
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# 7
10-14-2011, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mathandral View Post
The Dreadnaught on live does have an extra console slot for the cloak, and it is removeable. This has not transfered over to Tribble as I have looked at the ship on Holodeck and Tribble.

The lance is not a console and still part of the ship.

So really the ship has not been nerfed at all. You have an extra console slot (engineering) if you want.
I just checked, I'm not seeing an extra slot, or the cloak on holodeck, nor am I seeing an extra slot, it's still stuck at 8, one behind normal T5 ships.
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# 8
10-14-2011, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mathandral View Post
The Dreadnaught on live does have an extra console slot for the cloak, and it is removeable. This has not transfered over to Tribble as I have looked at the ship on Holodeck and Tribble.

The lance is not a console and still part of the ship.

So really the ship has not been nerfed at all. You have an extra console slot (engineering) if you want.
I think what the OP means is that the Galaxy-X always had 4 eng slots if they make the clock a Console they would have to add a slot for it other wise you are losing 1 slot or giving up the clock in effect losing an ability
that you payed for as the ship can only be bought or gotten thru the referral program.

current: 4 Slots clock & lance part of the ship
New: 3 slots + 1 clock console (total 4) + Lance (effects ability to tank)

I could be wrong but I think this is what the OP has in mind
Modified: 4 slots + 1 Clock console (total 5) + Lance
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# 9
10-14-2011, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by greenlightracer View Post
I'm not anywhere near being able to buy the dreadnaught on tribble yet, but from the description it looks like it only has a cloaking console, no lance console, and the number of console have not been increased.

This will ruin the game for me. If I have to give up any console in my dreadnaught cruiser, my gameplay will be seriously ruined. Can anyone confirm that adding the cloaking console effectively subtracts one slot because none are being added?

Cryptic: I don't care what you have to do, but don't cripple this ship anymore. Consider that Klingon Cruisers have far more crew, much more manuverbility, the ability to mount DC and DHCs, AND CLOAK, and have the same amount of consoles that the feds have. The ship is already worse then the klingon cruisers, save for the lance.

Make the Lance and Cloak into one console, and add a console slot. Also, calling the lance an advantage is kinda a joke given how much it misses. Maybe add a [Acc] proc to it, or cut down the time and damage proportionally so we can at least use it more. PLEASE DON'T NERF THE DREADNAUGHT!
What stark said I know right now it dose not have a extra console however they have stated that all ships that get their power converted to a console will get a extra slot so we will see.
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# 10
10-14-2011, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Valdeck View Post
What stark said I know right now it dose not have a extra console however they have stated that all ships that get their power converted to a console will get a extra slot so we will see.
They better get an extra slot. otherwise it would be nerfing the dreadnaught.
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