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Personally, I'm hoping they reassigned some of the ship's turnrate to the console and didn't just make it a transwarp.

If they took the turnrate down from 8 to 6 and made the console give +2 to base turnrate, it would allow people who own the Excelsior to opt to get more use out of other cruisers for similar mobility.

So I'm hoping they took the Excelsior's turnrate down and made the Transwarp console supply either +2 pr +33% turnrate. Net effect: an excelsior with the console is the same. Ditching the console has an in-combat effect. Excelsior owners can get similar performance from other ships. (The +33% would benefit the Sovereign most, giving it some love.)
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# 2
10-15-2011, 09:05 AM
According to ship vendor and C-Store they didn't. They gave the T3 Excelsior a bonus in Systems Efficiency and the T5 one a bonus in Systems Performance skills. And thank god. There's no reason the Excelsior should turn like a bathtub. While I can get the wish to see other cruisers turn faster, that should be realized another way.
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# 3
10-15-2011, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by K-Tar
According to ship vendor and C-Store they didn't. They gave the T3 Excelsior a bonus in Systems Efficiency and the T5 one a bonus in Systems Performance skills. And thank god. There's no reason the Excelsior should turn like a bathtub. While I can get the wish to see other cruisers turn faster, that should be realized another way.
On Holodeck, I put a RCS Accelerator on my Excelsior retrofit. It helps along with more engine power.
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# 4
10-15-2011, 01:21 PM
The problem is, the T5 is the best cruiser already and the other cruisers' consoles didn't increase their total power whereas the Exceslior's new console does.

IMHO, more of the Excelsior's innate power needs to be loaded off the ship and onto that console so that Excelsior owners feel less need to always fly the Excelsior.

I'm not sugge3sting that the Excelsior with the console needs a net power reduction. I'm just suggesting that more of the Excelsior's power needs to be shifted from the ship, to the console... and for that matter that the console be usable on other ships.

(The T3 version is, the T5 version isn't.)

IMHO, part of the beauty of consoles as opposed to innate powersis that they should make you want to try them out on ships other than the one you just bought.
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# 5
10-15-2011, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Leviathan99
IMHO, more of the Excelsior's innate power needs to be loaded off the ship and onto that console so that Excelsior owners feel less need to always fly the Excelsior.
I am an Excelsior owner and I don't feel the need to fly it always, I WANT to fly it because I love that ship, and it has always been my favourite right since TWOK.

I Think the new changes to it are going to make it simply better than it is and look forward to seeing what happens...

I also agree with the OP that the Sovereign should get som love too...
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# 6
10-15-2011, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfpack-NZ
I am an Excelsior owner and I don't feel the need to fly it always, I WANT to fly it because I love that ship, and it has always been my favourite right since TWOK.

I Think the new changes to it are going to make it simply better than it is and look forward to seeing what happens...

I also agree with the OP that the Sovereign should get som love too...
See... WhatI'm thinking now is...

Lower the Excelsior turnrate to 5 (it's a 130 year old class) but give the console a 60% improvement on base turnrate, which makes it the equivalent of nearly two high end RCS consoles.

The net result wouldn't nerf the Excelsior at all provided you use the console (the base turnrate would still be 8), it would make the Galaxy less painful(improving turnrate to a base of 9.6 and the Sovvie would get its base tuned up to 11.2 with the Excelsior console then.
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