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# 161
11-08-2011, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Cowbert View Post
wrong, wrong, and more wrong. Apparently they did not listen to us "minority" who wanted the "nerf" to stay.
Since you can no longer buy the Excelsior for "free" (without resorting to the dilithium exchange), the Excelsior has become way overpowered, with its +1 turn rate (with engine power set to 30, I got a 15.1 turn, that's -1 the base turn of an escort!). I seriously have no idea what ya'll were thinking when you thought that only "losing" an eng console slot was unsuitable. Now you can put 4 eng console slots back in there. For all the b***** you people do about F2P you sure love promoting what has obviously become a Pay2Win cruiser...

(I didn't mention btw, that they are going to do something about the Excelsior to rebalance it but they dialed it back to what it was so they could back to the drawing board with it).
So basically you're complaining about nothing. Congrats. I don't PvP, so I don't care about PvP issues. I also don't care that I had to buy the Excelsior. I've owned it since they released it. I'm a ship collector. All I know is that there was a large section of the player base who really hated what they did with the Excelsior, and that there were a lot of people feeling that Cryptic wasn't listening to player feedback about the F2P changes. Hence my response.
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# 162
11-08-2011, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Cowbert View Post
Since you can no longer buy the Excelsior for "free" (without resorting to the dilithium exchange), the Excelsior has become way overpowered, with its +1 turn rate (with engine power set to 30, I got a 15.1 turn, that's -1 the base turn of an escort!). I seriously have no idea what ya'll were thinking when you thought that only "losing" an eng console slot was unsuitable. Now you can put 4 eng console slots back in there. For all the b***** you people do about F2P you sure love promoting what has obviously become a Pay2Win cruiser...

(I didn't mention btw, that they are going to do something about the Excelsior to rebalance it but they dialed it back to what it was so they could back to the drawing board with it).
The only Excel that's "free" is the Tier 3 one, which you only use for 10 levels and then becomes meaningless. As a long time user of the Tier 5 Excelsior I can tell you this. It's certainly not a "pay to win" cruiser and the extra degree of turn rate can hardly be noticed. Base 6 for Galaxy classes, 7 for Sovereign and Stars and 8 for the Excel. Even science ships blow this away, let alone escorts. This seems like complaining just for the sake of it to me.

You can't please everyone but a lot more people seem happy with reverting the Excel back to form than hate it. And that's about the best result you can hope for.
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# 163
11-08-2011, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PatricianVetinari
The amount updates you guys are releasing is quite remarkable. Clearly you are all working tremendously hard! Well done.

Thanks for fixing the Excelsior and reverting it back to Holodeck features. Getting unique Transwarp icons is a nice bit of polish. Thanks again!

The DOff System continues to impress. A Brig, Passenger Tab, Cargo Bay... Nice, nice, nice.
Wouldn't it be neat if those DOFFs actually appeared in your ship interior in those areas? (For example, you walk into sick bay, and a subset of your DOFFs currently in sick bay would be shown in the beds.) A technological leap would be required, I know - but it sure would be cool.
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# 164
11-08-2011, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lynerunner View Post
The only Excel that's "free" is the Tier 3 one, which you only use for 10 levels and then becomes meaningless. As a long time user of the Tier 5 Excelsior I can tell you this. It's certainly not a "pay to win" cruiser and the extra degree of turn rate can hardly be noticed. Base 6 for Galaxy classes, 7 for Sovereign and Stars and 8 for the Excel. Even science ships blow this away, let alone escorts. This seems like complaining just for the sake of it to me.

You can't please everyone but a lot more people seem happy with reverting the Excel back to form than hate it. And that's about the best result you can hope for.
When did Tier 5 Excelsior become unavailable for emblems? AFAIK that's still "free" in the sense that you are not forced to pay C-points to get it. However in F2P, it is only available for C-points (which if you wish I suppose you could wait 4 months to accumulate your stipend points or try to exchange for dilithium, which at current rates will actually take longer than 4 mo to trade dil for 1600CP).

Why do you think people keep trying to petition for +1 turn to Sov? Because they know once T5 Excel can not be gotten by just grinding emblems (especially for people who got the 250 emblem reward before Cryptic yanked that too), it becomes better than Sov - not to mention the more usefulness of the ltcdr tac slot (as opposed to ens+lt). If Cryptic isn't going to grant +1 to Sov then there is no reason to complain when they nerf Excel to bring it inline with other T5 cruisers. What do you think is worth more? +1 turn (bigger advantage) or 1 console slot that you already have 3 of?
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# 165
11-08-2011, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Omega_Glory
So basically you're complaining about nothing. Congrats. I don't PvP, so I don't care about PvP issues. I also don't care that I had to buy the Excelsior. I've owned it since they released it. I'm a ship collector. All I know is that there was a large section of the player base who really hated what they did with the Excelsior, and that there were a lot of people feeling that Cryptic wasn't listening to player feedback about the F2P changes. Hence my response.
Using "I don't PVP so I don't care" as an argument is equivalent to Cryptic not listening to the other half of the playerbase. Same attitude if you ask me. You want to actually try to make the game work? How about leading by example instead of saying "well I don't do [insert activity] in the game so everyone who does doesn't deserve the same attention as me"
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# 166
11-08-2011, 01:19 PM
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All maps entered via a queue will boot you out 5 seconds after the mission is complete.

This includes STFs, so grab that loot as fast as possible.


o.o?

wa?

alltho, looks like a really big bug fix overall, u guys should keep up the bug fixing, don't bring new content without improving the game much further :3
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# 167 Yay
11-10-2011, 07:29 AM
yay finaly the new powers system cant wate till servers come back up to give it a whorl have been wating for this for a while now!
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# 168
11-10-2011, 11:53 AM
I love the changes and I cant't wait to see what else they do.
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