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# 21
11-13-2011, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by H.Ramone
well, since the ship still have nine console slots i don't feel that someone decided against me. honestly i couldn't care less about the transwarp ability. i just said that the excelsior shouldn't have 10 conso.. you know what? let's close the thread.
Yeah, you're probably right. Thread is essentially useless now. I apologize for seeming like a jerk with that last post.
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# 22
11-13-2011, 11:43 PM
Was it ever that bad before the roleback, iterating yes but bad? Swap console in, transwarp, swap console out.
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# 23
11-14-2011, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Pottsey
Was it ever that bad before the roleback, iterating yes but bad? Swap console in, transwarp, swap console out.
exactly. protesting the console was silly
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# 24
11-14-2011, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by -GEN-Alaris
The Tier-5 Excelsior had its Transwarp Ability turned into a universal Console, yes? And yet... it receives no Console Slot. So... in effect, it loses a Console slot.

EVERY OTHER SHIP that had its Special Power turned into a Console received an extra Console Slot. Even some that DIDN'T have their special power turned into a Console got an extra slot.

What the hell!? Does Cryptic hate the Excelsior?

Topic.

Reason?

Discuss.
Old Topic.

It always had a non-combat special ability without losing any console slots compared to other Tier 5 ships.
But they wanted to make all special abilities into consoles. So they created the transwarp console, added a combat benefit, and put it in one of the existing Excelsior slots.

You're not getting a new slot because that would give you an extra slot above all the other Retrofits, plus a console that grants you a combat bonus.

I personally think it would have been better to make the transwarp ability a device instead of a console.
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# 25 Console
11-14-2011, 03:28 AM
This the one console that it would not matter if it were on a escort, scie, or cursier. So what the do? Limit it to just one ship type.
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# 26
11-14-2011, 03:39 AM
Did I miss something?
I thought that issue were resolved already.... by changing the ship back to its original state?
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# 27
11-14-2011, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MustrumRidcully View Post
It always had a non-combat special ability without losing any console slots compared to other Tier 5 ships.
Certain T5 ship has an extra COMBAT special ability without losing anything.
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# 28
11-14-2011, 04:41 AM
I only cared that they didn't give this powerful ship a more powerful additional console slot.

I couldn't care less about the noncombat transwarp power since that has nothing to do with balance. That you people thought it needed to get another console slot in exchange for a noncombat console blows my mind though.

Anyone capable of independent thought can clearly see that it didn't lose anything from the start (unlike every other ship) so it didn't need to gain anything when they made this change. The only change that didn't make sense was removing some of the transwarp locations (srsly, wtf?) and maybe the introduction of a lame power boost to justify the console change.

On a side note, I rather like the suggestion someone made earlier to sell this as a universal console available to all ship types.
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# 29
11-14-2011, 09:00 PM
Why not do like I do with the Borg sub-transwarp engine that grants you extra speed, and only equip said console in sector space? Slap it on when you need to transwarp somewhere, and take it off before you enter a mission.

That's probably why they didn't give you a console slot. Because, you'd be stupid to keep the console equipped while in combat. And, that would mean that those with Excelsiors could have their cake and eat it too, whereas everyone else has to choose whether they want the extra console slot, or the console ability.
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