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Had the Defiant Retrofit worse handling than defiant tier 4?

I just raise all levels on another char, and I set all thing on "tactical skils" and escort handling skills even the own retrofit, but when i change the ship, I see that ship, turn and "fire" less than Defiant tier 4. it more fun go with tier 4 than with the retrofit... The stats show that both ships must be equals (retrofit had a rear slot more and more hp).

It is correct or I make something wrong?

Thanks to everybody, and sorry for my bad english.
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# 2
11-16-2011, 08:31 AM
Take a screen cap of your build? Kind of difficult to say for sure where your problem may be. I've been flying the Defiant-R for about a year now, and I find it much more maneuverable than the T4 version on my other toon. Also, what sort of gear do you have on it? Specifically the engines.

Things to consider are: Skill points in the entire line of escorts

Engineering skills, how many points do you have in engine efficiency?

And finally hardware, what impulse engine do you have on her?
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# 3
11-16-2011, 09:06 AM
1. Do you have skills in "Tactical Escort Captain"?
2. Do you have skills in "Retrofit Escort Captain"?

If you said yes to 1, and no to 2, then that explains why your T4 ship is outflying your T5 ship.
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# 4
11-16-2011, 09:25 AM
I've flown my Defiant-R since it came out, I find it to be very maneuverable. I have the Aegis set on it, got my Escort points all up. I should check to see about Engine points as well though.
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# 5
11-16-2011, 03:07 PM
Normally the retrofit would be better in real life but since this is a game i guess it is the devs trying to balance everything out so not to make the oridnary definet completely useless.
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# 6
11-16-2011, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RAJ_2011
Normally the retrofit would be better in real life but since this is a game i guess it is the devs trying to balance everything out so not to make the oridnary definet completely useless.
This is why i hate this game something. its like the Tier don't mean anything in the game. on the other hand the game have too many tier system for ships which i find useless.
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# 7
11-16-2011, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bellsarius
This is why i hate this game something. its like the Tier don't mean anything in the game. on the other hand the game have too many tier system for ships which i find useless.
I know what you mean. But remember this is just a game. I real life yes the defint retrofit/refits and all other refits are better than the original versions. Obivously becasue it is an improvement.
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# 8
11-16-2011, 05:56 PM
The Defiant-R is better in most ways but the turn rate does seem to be the same (at least according to the description at space dock). As has already been suggested, if you are feeling sluggish you should:
  • Make sure you are investing your skill points in the correct ship skills,
  • Hyper-Impulse Engines are your best bet for speed (assuming you maintain...),
  • High Engine power is going to help you with speed and turn rate too (your power slider gets reset when you change ships so you might need to readjust)
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# 9
11-16-2011, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RAJ_2011
I know what you mean. But remember this is just a game. I real life yes the defint retrofit/refits and all other refits are better than the original versions. Obivously becasue it is an improvement.
In real life, none of them exist.

Don't get twisty about what make-believe ship outperforms which other make-believe ship in real life, or else I will unleash the most uber-powered badassed ship of all time to own them all.

And it has already had an initial graphics pass and been rendered...all Logan would have to do is clean it up a little.
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# 10
11-17-2011, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by boglejam View Post
In real life, none of them exist.

Don't get twisty about what make-believe ship outperforms which other make-believe ship in real life, or else I will unleash the most uber-powered badassed ship of all time to own them all.

And it has already had an initial graphics pass and been rendered...all Logan would have to do is clean it up a little.
Obivously they not real life ships but I am just saying in general terms. Is that your ship?. lmao. :p
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