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# 11
11-17-2011, 04:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuatela
1. Do you have skills in "Tactical Escort Captain"?
2. Do you have skills in "Retrofit Escort Captain"?

If you said yes to 1, and no to 2, then that explains why your T4 ship is outflying your T5 ship.
To elaborate:
The tier 4 skill "Tactical Escort Captain" are counted 100 % for the Tier 4 Defiant, but only 50 % for the Tier 5 Defiant Retrofit. So you need at least half the skill modifier in your Tier 5 Retrofit Escort Captain skill to get the same results. (But if you actually go beyond that - you can come out ahead of the Tier 4 Defiant, as the Tier 5 skill doesn't affect it at all.)

Beware that this information will soon become obsolete when the skill training skills get revamped. (See Tribble for the first take on the skill revamp).

Quote:
Originally Posted by RAJ_2011
Obivously they not real life ships but I am just saying in general terms. Is that your ship?. lmao. :p
What? The Ferengi Vendor said it was a 100 % legit Defiant-Retrofit.
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# 12
11-17-2011, 05:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MustrumRidcully View Post
To elaborate:
The tier 4 skill "Tactical Escort Captain" are counted 100 % for the Tier 4 Defiant, but only 50 % for the Tier 5 Defiant Retrofit. So you need at least half the skill modifier in your Tier 5 Retrofit Escort Captain skill to get the same results. (But if you actually go beyond that - you can come out ahead of the Tier 4 Defiant, as the Tier 5 skill doesn't affect it at all.)

Beware that this information will soon become obsolete when the skill training skills get revamped. (See Tribble for the first take on the skill revamp).


What? The Ferengi Vendor said it was a 100 % legit Defiant-Retrofit.
I'll take my make-believe flying doghouse/Sopwith Camel over a goofy looking Gal-X any day. Then, when I kill something, I do the Snoopy happy dance.
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# 13
11-18-2011, 02:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprint01
Take a screen cap of your build? Kind of difficult to say for sure where your problem may be. I've been flying the Defiant-R for about a year now, and I find it much more maneuverable than the T4 version on my other toon. Also, what sort of gear do you have on it? Specifically the engines.

Things to consider are: Skill points in the entire line of escorts

Engineering skills, how many points do you have in engine efficiency?

And finally hardware, what impulse engine do you have on her?


All skill escort line is full and the skill of retrofit as well (before I take the ship even).

Engineering skills only basic skils, all rest of skill points go to "tactical carrer" and for Phaser, photon, cannons and torp.

Hardware: the breen set on this char, it has been the equipment for all levels (even Mk X has been on both ships... to compare it, both ships go with same equipment)

That has been the problem... I no take any reason to "see" that happened.

Truly, when more use retrofit, more confortable I feel using it. Even with hours on it I feel better than before (with the same skills, equipment)... It sound "stupid" but it if how exist a "secret" value that raise with time... maybe only that be "habit" on it.


Thanks to everybody and sorry for my bad english.



P.D.: but else, if I pick the non-refited defiant, she turn better and fire more "rapid" than refited defiant. Anyway the aditional "slot" and more hp give to she a better grade of surviability. (I raise all carrer of Captain and RA with it, really I was very fun).
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