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# 41
12-13-2011, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sabrefyre
Join the darkside of the macro...we have cookies!
I never could get the macros working here. SWG, no problem, STO just couldnt get it working....
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# 42
12-13-2011, 02:10 PM
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I never could get the macros working here. SWG, no problem, STO just couldnt get it working....
The only macro I use is for shield re-distro the UI is too laggy for much of anything else.
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# 43
12-13-2011, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Vipermist
Funny how the majority of players (Federation) have a cry now about cheese and powers when it gets used against them.

Guess what

Even well before season 5 almost every player (except a few true champs that don't use bs to win) loaded up on the formerly massively overpowered torpedo spread , thought it was totally ok that they insta kill people with massive crits through shields, or run every cruiser with AMS and harpengs v1 when klingons didn't have them.

When targeting changes were made allowing players to ignore photonics and mines when in battle targeting, effectively nerfing the purpose of fed spam, did spam suddenly become not cool. Back when klingons had no carriers, feds where spamming mines like crazy but you know its ok to spam if your fed but not klingon.

But now suddenly its not ok to use cheese because feddie player is getting it used against himself without having good enough cheese to throw back. Fed escorts consoles not up to par in the cheese factor compared to klingons ones, boo hoo.

Long have feds out cheesed klingons and thought it was all good, because they are federation players anything federation does or gets is never wrong or overpowered at all.......
Long have feds used cheese and had far better ships with BO layouts and more variety to easily squash most klingon players.
Not anymore, klingons are getting their fair share of cheese now and hopefully coming soon negvar and raptor refits that equal federation options in ship choices at end game PVP.

The game is cheese online, has been going that way for a long time. Efforts were tried to have cheese free tournaments and matches and it failed due to epic QQ'ing from certain federation fleets and players, that couldn't win without there cheese.
Now your enemy can more than out cheese you and suddenly the perspective changes to oh now its not cool to use cheese any more

Qew was making threads long ago about cheese and nobody except us gave a toss
The community has only it self to blame for the state of the game, you reap what you sow.

And for the people that are crying because klingons can out-cheese feds atm, don't worry im sure cryptic will release the enterprise F with extra cheese abilities just for you,
God forbid actually learning to play the game and use skill / tactics and teamwork to win. Who needs that stuff anyway when you can have moar cheese.
*standing ovation*
Tell like it is....
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# 44
12-13-2011, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by KBFLordKrueg View Post
*standing ovation*
Tell like it is....
No doubt, made me want to break something...

Besides the cheese can't be that bad. I watch StarWrath hold his on very well against multiples klinks, so some players seem better than others at survival. Possibly the whole debacle of OP is a much skill related as cheesy?
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# 45
12-13-2011, 07:01 PM
I find it pretty funny how players stick themselves into a "I'm a Fed - lalalala" or "I'm a Klink - raaawr" mentality and get all butthurt over what their faction doesn't have and what the other faction has. I think its a bit ignorant and childish to be honest. You're not Kirk, Picard, or Sisko and you're not Chang, Galron, or Martok, and given this game's immersiveness (like um, not much) I don't see why you would champion one faction or the other. Bottom line there is alot of junk in this game and I don't see how its satisfying to use most of it or fun to have it used on you.

So I guess klinks like using all of the new crap against feds now and have their revenge so to speak for being "neglected" for so long. Feds will cry and call for nerfs, klinks will cry again because feddies might get their way. More crap will come out to be piled on top of all the crap in game now and so the cycle continues.

Pretty sad state of affairs I think.
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# 46
12-13-2011, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock_Monster View Post
I find it pretty funny how players stick themselves into a "I'm a Fed - lalalala" or "I'm a Klink - raaawr" mentality and get all butthurt over what their faction doesn't have and what the other faction has. I think its a bit ignorant and childish to be honest. You're not Kirk, Picard, or Sisko and you're not Chang, Galron, or Martok, and given this game's immersiveness (like um, not much) I don't see why you would champion one faction or the other. Bottom line there is alot of junk in this game and I don't see how its satisfying to use most of it or fun to have it used on you.

So I guess klinks like using all of the new crap against feds now and have their revenge so to speak for being "neglected" for so long. Feds will cry and call for nerfs, klinks will cry again because feddies might get their way. More crap will come out to be piled on top of all the crap in game now and so the cycle continues.

Pretty sad state of affairs I think.
As long as we stick to normal means and player skill, all will be well
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# 47
12-14-2011, 02:35 AM
Thanks Roach, but I'd like better vaporizing the enemy to surviving a little bit towards multiple klis!
I don't care about survival, I wanna destroy the KDF and all the spam and cheese prevent any victory. It was very difficult before, but now is really impossible to win! Who every night fights at Ker'rat knows the truth...
There are fed players more skilled than me and all admit in this cycle the klinguns are too strong. Besides, using the toy consoles in my opinion conceal the cleverness of many kli players like you, Demeter, Cryox, Gripple and others. You guys are the most experienced players of Stol and don't need all this crap. Please...don't do this...so you'll give me a chance to vaporize you!
But seriously, this lack of balance probably isn't very bad, I mean, we feds are forced to improve our tactics, abilities, timing, teamwork and keybinds (that's why I can withstand even better:p), and you klis, for now, have a good time to pew pew and gnam gnam (burp!).
Cryptic, where is that f...ing Enterprise F?
Ah, one more thing...if weren't the squabbles the game would be boring...
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# 48
12-14-2011, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Starwrath
Thanks Roach, but I'd like better vaporizing the enemy to surviving a little bit towards multiple klis!
I don't care about survival, I wanna destroy the KDF and all the spam and cheese prevent any victory. It was very difficult before, but now is really impossible to win! Who every night fights at Ker'rat knows the truth...
There are fed players more skilled than me and all admit in this cycle the klinguns are too strong. Besides, using the toy consoles in my opinion conceal the cleverness of many kli players like you, Demeter, Cryox, Gripple and others. You guys are the most experienced players of Stol and don't need all this crap. Please...don't do this...so you'll give me a chance to vaporize you!
But seriously, this lack of balance probably isn't very bad, I mean, we feds are forced to improve our tactics, abilities, timing, teamwork and keybinds (that's why I can withstand even better:p), and you klis, for now, have a good time to pew pew and gnam gnam (burp!).
Cryptic, where is that f...ing Enterprise F?
Ah, one more thing...if weren't the squabbles the game would be boring...
Really?
One Graviton Pulse generator used against you last night is crap, when you where outnumbered nearly 6 to 1, to stall your running away and thats impossible ?
If the carriers had dropped aceton Assimilators and or a Plasmodic leach was in play I could see crappily impossible being the defintion of the experience.
Your a better player than you give yourself credit for and nobody survives a 5 to 1 disadvantage.

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So I guess klinks like using all of the new crap against feds now and have their revenge so to speak for being "neglected" for so long. Feds will cry and call for nerfs, klinks will cry again because feddies might get their way. More crap will come out to be piled on top of all the crap in game now and so the cycle continues.
One of the reasons the cries fall on deaf ears. New crap will arrive to replace the recent crap and the vocal minority will shift again. So until the newer new crap floats in we KDF will enjoy our newest crap as we much as we can before its possibly reduced to true crap from all the crap going on in the forums. Then most likely the cycle will start over again over some new crap....even though everybody seems to use the crap as much as everybody else, which makes the whole arguement just a bunch of crap.
wow, that is crappy.
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# 49
12-14-2011, 05:57 AM
Nah, I'm only a lucky fed!
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# 50
12-14-2011, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Starwrath
Nah, I'm only a lucky fed!
Luck helps, but can only carry one so far - don't sell yourself so short.
That was a lot of incomming fire you took last night.
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