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# 11
12-18-2011, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Commadore_Bob
Do you notice the REQUEST REINFORCEMENTS button. Hit that next time and wait a few mins if nobody turns up then leave.
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# 12
12-18-2011, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mmendel46 View Post
Optional Infected isn't impossible......people just try to rush through. You have to slow down and make sure you go for the crewmembers FIRST. To many people just try to go A-Team and dive into the mix. You will fail.
I go all A-team in that, except I direct it towards the crew to be saved, physicist kit is awesome for this

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Originally Posted by Tyron_Jara
Do you notice the REQUEST REINFORCEMENTS button. Hit that next time and wait a few mins if nobody turns up then leave.
Boff's aren't really a substitute for real people, not just because of the AI but they also have fewer powers and don't do as much damage as a player.

Sorry to hear about this Bob, I get annoyed when the optional fails but so far ot so much to quit an STF
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# 13
12-18-2011, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain_Collier
I go all A-team in that, except I direct it towards the crew to be saved, physicist kit is awesome for this



Boff's aren't really a substitute for real people, not just because of the AI but they also have fewer powers and don't do as much damage as a player.

Sorry to hear about this Bob, I get annoyed when the optional fails but so far ot so much to quit an STF
Requesting reinforcements in an STF doesn't summon BOffs. It may allow people to queue for your instance;I can't say I know for sure if that works.
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# 14
12-18-2011, 02:57 PM
You should file a bug report or something. IIRC the last 3 people to leave an STF aren't supposed to get the leaver penalty
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# 15
12-18-2011, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Leviathan99
KA is decent. Infected isn't bad until the last boss aside from a nigh impossible optional objective. (Really, all the ground optionals should flat out reward a second EDC to everyone.) The Cure is not for PuGs on any difficulty; they ought to let everyone bring a full away team to this one to put the focus on the strategy and then just beef up the Elite mode mobs to account for there being 25 friendlies on hand.
I've handled the optional for infected by myself... multiple times with my escort alone and My Excel alone. Cannon Scatter Volley and Torp spread.... and you have got to be able to just pour out the DPS... Attack Pattern Alpha, Omega III, and Tac Team

With the Excel..... it's warp plasma, directed energy modulation, and FAW for the win... hang and fry them.

You really need someone dedicated with someone else watching to give a little backup for a few seconds when needed. Not hard when people don't just blow off the objective... and I have held it on my own while the others blew it off.

I don't think they are rewarding enough, I thought it was guaranteed to get a rare salvage in the team loot bag for those.
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# 16
12-18-2011, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by biglcny View Post
I've handled the optional for infected by myself... multiple times with my escort alone and My Excel alone. Cannon Scatter Volley and Torp spread.... and you have got to be able to just pour out the DPS... Attack Pattern Alpha, Omega III, and Tac Team

With the Excel..... it's warp plasma, directed energy modulation, and FAW for the win... hang and fry them.

You really need someone dedicated with someone else watching to give a little backup for a few seconds when needed. Not hard when people don't just blow off the objective... and I have held it on my own while the others blew it off.

I don't think they are rewarding enough, I thought it was guaranteed to get a rare salvage in the team loot bag for those.
I'm talking Infected Ground. The Ground optionals are a lot less forgiving, aside from KA, where the clock could maybe be shaved down.

Shave down the timer by about 2 minutes on KA and then toss a guaranteed EDC and a shot at another EDC in the optional reward bag for ground, I say
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# 17
12-18-2011, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by KitsuneRommel
Notice how little they progressed in that 15 minutes? Ouch.
I ran all the way back to the beginning to see if the "(null)" was there. We actually made decent progress, they just gave up. Actually, this pic was taken at least ten minutes after the last guy bailed. I tried to run through it solo. Obviously didn't work.


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Originally Posted by Tyron_Jara
Do you notice the REQUEST REINFORCEMENTS button. Hit that next time and wait a few mins if nobody turns up then leave.
I could have press the button on my son's toy on my desk and it wouldn't have helped. I virtually spammed that button, ran back to the beginning, and said screw it.
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# 18
12-18-2011, 10:58 PM
That sucks, big time. I've actually managed to finished KA ground and Infected ground with 4 man teams, and very rarely 3. Any less and you're pooched.
I've been reading plenty of threads where people complain about the "leaver" penalty, but it's obviously not punishing the right people or acting as a deterent. All too often I see people rage quite during STF's and that's not on elite mode.
There really needs to be a way to someone come in as a replacement and help you finish the mission to make up for the rage quitters, you know how you used to be able to do it on the old STF's.
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# 19
12-18-2011, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Commadore_Bob
I ran all the way back to the beginning to see if the "(null)" was there. We actually made decent progress, they just gave up. Actually, this pic was taken at least ten minutes after the last guy bailed. I tried to run through it solo. Obviously didn't work.
Oh, I meant the '2/4 captives and 1/4 samples' part.

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Originally Posted by P.E.Hunte
There really needs to be a way to someone come in as a replacement and help you finish the mission to make up for the rage quitters, you know how you used to be able to do it on the old STF's.
Agreed. After a certain time the instance disappears from the in-progress window which makes no sense unless the plan was to stop people from joining in at the boss.
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# 20
12-19-2011, 12:28 AM
Don't PUG...

Do PUEG (Pick Up Experienced Group)...

Via the EliteSTF channel.

P.S. This also happened to me when I couldn't find a PUEG and tried a PUG team instead, never again.
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