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# 1441
04-10-2012, 05:57 AM
Then factor in the 30 dollars required to buy the box where I come from, then the monthly subscription...big moneysink, don't you think? That's why I only got STO (for about 25 dollars as I was unaware of the full implications of F2P, and bought a pair of boxes) after F2P came along.

Edit: I mean, think about it. I could go to a restaraunt (or whatever it's spelled) and buy dinner for myself and both my siblings with the money it takes to subscribe to an MMO for even one month! (heck, I could buy dinner for my parents too for the 30 dollars needed to get the box)
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# 1442
04-10-2012, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dalolorn
Edit: I mean, think about it. I could go to a restaraunt (or whatever it's spelled) and buy dinner for myself and both my siblings with the money it takes to subscribe to an MMO for even one month! (heck, I could buy dinner for my parents too for the 30 dollars needed to get the box)
Well, usually when this comparision is made, people point out that just covers you for one dinner on one evening. While a month of subscription means you can play every night of the month (and more, if you wish to.)

Now, if you're really hungry, you should go for the meal, but if you're just doing it for entertainment and fun, then an MMO is a bargain.
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# 1443
04-10-2012, 07:43 AM
For the price of a cup of coffee per day, you can feed your entertainment centers of your brain!
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# 1444
04-10-2012, 08:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dalolorn
Then factor in the 30 dollars required to buy the box where I come from, then the monthly subscription...big moneysink, don't you think? That's why I only got STO (for about 25 dollars as I was unaware of the full implications of F2P, and bought a pair of boxes) after F2P came along.

Edit: I mean, think about it. I could go to a restaraunt (or whatever it's spelled) and buy dinner for myself and both my siblings with the money it takes to subscribe to an MMO for even one month! (heck, I could buy dinner for my parents too for the 30 dollars needed to get the box)
What restaurant can you go to for a 5 dollar dinner? I wouldn't want to go to one of those without some Pepto.
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# 1445
04-10-2012, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Storm-Strike
What restaurant can you go to for a 5 dollar dinner? I wouldn't want to go to one of those without some Pepto.
Denny's? Maybe? Best guess I have. There are some local "diners" around here that still offer a 5 dollar breakfast deal after midnight.
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# 1446
04-10-2012, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Storm-Strike
What restaurant can you go to for a 5 dollar dinner? I wouldn't want to go to one of those without some Pepto.
$5?

Lol the person you were quoting was asying $25-30.
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# 1447
04-10-2012, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Kyuui View Post
For me, i wasn't lead away, I left. Simply because I can do more in TOR than I can in STO, and I don't need a foundry to do it.

As far as Cryptic goes, I have come to realize they are to be regarded with much skepticism and for lack of a better word distrust. The Recent revelation from them about the "intents" has seriously soured me on them, They can't be trusted anymore, which is tragic. I wouldn't say Cryptic is dying per se, but they definitely are NOT doing things to help themselves now.
yes, because EA/BioWare has been SO foprthcoming about everything in SWToR with regard to graphocs issues, their own engine and UI limitaions, and NEBVER spin anyhing... oh, wait..

My point: YOu should ALWAYS be skeptical of anything said by a game development company be it Cryptic, EA (especcially EA given their track record), BioWare, Blizzard, SOE, et. al.

The reps and developers interacting are friendly, but not your friiend per se at the end of the day because in the end, they want you to purchase their product and continue to use it. That's just business; and I've yet to see ANY developer be really and absolutely transparent (and Cryptic has been more than most in the past, but again, ANY developer is going to downplay and spin the not so good stuff and really seel the popular stuff.)

personally I don't find Cryptic any better or worse then BioWare or Blizzard in regard to spin and promotion; but after all the issues with SWToR high rez textures and other engine deficincies that they constantly claim are end user issues, etc; I don't see BioWare as any morte or less 'trustworthy' then Cryptic (and EA has NEVER been a trustworthy development company.)

Just saying.
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# 1448
04-10-2012, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenor-Nyiad View Post
$5?

Lol the person you were quoting was asying $25-30.
But doesn't the sub cost $15 per month?

That's still a relatively low priced meal.

Except maybe at Waffle House.
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# 1449
04-10-2012, 11:36 AM
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But doesn't the sub cost $15 per month?

That's still a relatively low priced meal.

Except maybe at Waffle House.
Waffle House, yuck ! :p

Elara Dorne get's better food than that!
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# 1450
04-10-2012, 11:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tosmonkey
No need to be rude about it, Solomace. Personally I gotta agree with .dlp.mercenary. I mean no disrespect to SWTOR. I'm sure it's a great game. I just don't think any game is worth $180 a year.
Now how did I miss this response.

Hmmm, let me see. Someone enjoying a game but doesn't want to pay for the game, yet I'm enjoying the game and I have to pay for it? Why else do you think I said what I said.

I see that you are new to STO and didn't pay for the box or subscribe eh?

It's what it's worth to you. Obviously he didn't enjoy TOR enough to buy the game and sub, where as 1 mil + had no problem. What makes him so special?

Either he waits until it goes F2P (If) or he acknowledges that he has to buy the game to continue playing.

I take it STO wasn't that good that you were prepared to pay and sub eh?

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For the price of a cup of coffee per day, you can feed your entertainment centers of your brain!
Do you know who you sound like Chum? A certain Cosmic all knowing person who posts and posts on here, who thinks he's all wise when in fact he talks utter tripe...

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Originally Posted by Armsman View Post
yes, because EA/BioWare has been SO foprthcoming about everything in SWToR with regard to graphocs issues, their own engine and UI limitaions, and NEBVER spin anyhing... oh, wait..

My point: YOu should ALWAYS be skeptical of anything said by a game development company be it Cryptic, EA (especcially EA given their track record), BioWare, Blizzard, SOE, et. al.

The reps and developers interacting are friendly, but not your friiend per se at the end of the day because in the end, they want you to purchase their product and continue to use it. That's just business; and I've yet to see ANY developer be really and absolutely transparent (and Cryptic has been more than most in the past, but again, ANY developer is going to downplay and spin the not so good stuff and really seel the popular stuff.)

personally I don't find Cryptic any better or worse then BioWare or Blizzard in regard to spin and promotion; but after all the issues with SWToR high rez textures and other engine deficincies that they constantly claim are end user issues, etc; I don't see BioWare as any morte or less 'trustworthy' then Cryptic (and EA has NEVER been a trustworthy development company.)

Just saying.
But having said all that, TOR is still 10 times better than STO and I am enjoying the game immensely, so they can pretty much do as they want and say what they want at the moment. A bit like you use to let Cryptic do for over a year no?

If/when I get to the stage I am with STO, then I might think differently but right now I don't

Forgive me if I don't put much stock in what you say about TOR, because your mantra before it was released was "its got a rail shooter for space combat" and " Its a failure" which I believe you had to back track on.

You "claim" you still play TOR, but you do go out of your way to trash it.

At least I don't play STO when I Trash it
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