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# 41
01-04-2012, 02:54 PM
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Picard was a iconic character...
And we know what happen to him in this timeline. Worf was an iconic character and we know what happen to him in this timeline. We know what happen to Geordi, Riker, and so on. Data is as iconic as Spock so if he were retired there would be something about it in the game. Still, we shall agree to disagree. So you think and imagine what you want too - at least until the next FE when I'm sure we'll get more info beyond just the plaque to tell us about the F and why it was commissioned.
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# 42
01-04-2012, 03:02 PM
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Eaves released his concept sketches.

http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com...nal-small1.jpg

The original First Contact version is at the bottom, the middle has the phase one version from Nemesis with the CG model and ILM's stuido model, and the top is the phase two refit.
There you go MVS5191, thanks hevach. Personally If there was going to be an F it would be this, the second nemesis refit design. Just like how they choose to give the TOS crew another consistuation (spelling) class as the Enterprise A.
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# 43
01-04-2012, 04:56 PM
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Picard was a iconic character during DS9 time line. The Enterprise E was the flag ship of the entire Starfleet! What do we know about Picard and the E-E during the Dominion? Nathing, absolutly nathing. We donít see it, but for all we know Sisko reeds reports of the heroic E-E crew each single day, the fact is that we donít know.

One may think that the crew of the E-E was missing or dead during the DS9 time! How in hell we donít know nothing about the Flagship of the Federation in time of war? They should be dead!

Maybe there is a entire report of the E-E decommission and the promotion of Data in your Reddy room, who knows. But we know something for SURE, and is that in the game canon, the E-E is not mission or destroy and Data is not dead or missing. You think and imagine what you want.
during the first year of the dominion war enterprise-E was most in likely being repair from the second Borg incursion (movie first contact) an was probly out of active till the end of the war.
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# 44
01-05-2012, 03:25 AM
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Still, we shall agree to disagree. So you think and imagine what you want too - at least until the next FE when I'm sure we'll get more info beyond just the plaque to tell us about the F and why it was commissioned.
Well, at least we agree on something.. but if you think that CBS is going to allow Cryptic "disappear" or "destroy" the E-E, is my opinion that you are going to be disappointed.
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# 45
01-05-2012, 04:56 AM
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There you go MVS5191, thanks hevach. Personally If there was going to be an F it would be this, the second nemesis refit design. Just like how they choose to give the TOS crew another consistuation (spelling) class as the Enterprise A.
Unfortunately that logic kind f breaks down for all other designations of enterprise... Not saying I disagree mind.
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# 46
01-05-2012, 05:06 AM
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There you go MVS5191, thanks hevach. Personally If there was going to be an F it would be this, the second nemesis refit design. Just like how they choose to give the TOS crew another consistuation (spelling) class as the Enterprise A.
I'm not sure how these two things are in any way related.
The reson they gave Kirk and his crew another Conistitution refit was because there was nothing more practical around since the Excelsior was still not out of the prototype phase.
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# 47
01-05-2012, 05:08 AM
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Unfortunately that logic kind f breaks down for all other designations of enterprise... Not saying I disagree mind.

Well since we already getting an E-F that is fine with me since sto is not canon. But in moives or series. Definatly. It is said in someone can't remember where and in insurrection that the E-E did mostly Diplomatic mission etc. As Captain Picard says it "...One more brush fire....Can anyone remember when we use to be explorers" lol. Sorry just had to add that last part.
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# 48
01-05-2012, 05:53 AM
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I'm not sure how these two things are in any way related.
The reson they gave Kirk and his crew another Conistitution refit was because there was nothing more practical around since the Excelsior was still not out of the prototype phase.
This - the Constitution refit was still top of the line in multimission ships, the original refit was less than a decade old and the Excelsior project had been delayed substantially. It was in service less than a decade, too, before they decommissioned it for a newer design.

If the E had been beyond repair in Nemesis, they may have made another Sovereign-class F then. But now, 30 years later, there are two newer multimission cruiser designs - the star cruiser line and now the Odyssey. In seven Enterprises it is unprecedented for one to be two generations behind the design curve - only one was not the cutting edge of Starfleet design, and that one was only on the technicality that a mothballed prototype not in active service was newer.
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# 49
01-05-2012, 05:59 AM
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Well, at least we agree on something.. but if you think that CBS is going to allow Cryptic "disappear" or "destroy" the E-E, is my opinion that you are going to be disappointed.
CBS has allowed a lot of Enterprises to be destroyed or to disappear. Since they're never going to use the E again (Stewart, Frakes, and Spiner have all said they are done with Star Trek - Stewart going to far as to even reject Cryptic's VO work for STO) the E has no meaning to them any more. If CBS were to make a new series they would update their timeline just as they did with TNG. They wouldn't be putting a new crew in the E. As far as CBS is concerned the E is history, just as the refit, C, and D were - all of where were destroyed.

It's also important to keep in mind that STO is soft canon, not hard canon. Everything that happens in STO is like things which happen in a novel or comic book: they have no real meaning to CBS/Paramount or what they wants to do with their IP. STO's universe is make believe, which is why you can have NXes, Oberths, and TOS Connies flying next to an Odyssey.
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# 50
01-05-2012, 06:12 AM
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CBS has allowed a lot of Enterprises to be destroyed or to disappear. Since they're never going to use the E again (Stewart, Frakes, and Spiner have all said they are done with Star Trek - Stewart going to far as to even reject Cryptic's VO work for STO) the E has no meaning to them any more. If CBS were to make a new series they would update their timeline just as they did with TNG. They wouldn't be putting a new crew in the E. As far as CBS is concerned the E is history, just as the refit, C, and D were - all of where were destroyed.
Yes they allowed a lot of Enterprise to be destroyed, but not by a GAME. And beside, the E-E is has a lot of importance for CBS, just check at the E-Books!

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It's also important to keep in mind that STO is soft canon, not hard canon. Everything that happens in STO is like things which happen in a novel or comic book: they have no real meaning to CBS/Paramount or what they wants to do with their IP. STO's universe is make believe, which is why you can have NXes, Oberths, and TOS Connies flying next to an Odyssey.
What do you said?? Every thing stuff that cryptic makes, goes first in to the CBS hand. They not even allow the TOS Connie to be a T5! They donít want playable Androids because they believe that is not correct for the IP to have so many! And I can keep all day telling you the times that CBS stopped Cryptic to protect the IP.
And STO is not solf canon, is NOT canon at all.. nathing about STO, or the books will ever be canon unless is shown on the TV, but even so CPS protect the IP! Not even the Countdown comic is canon.

Well, this discussion is irrelevant, we are discussing about your imagination, witch is fine and all that, but is FAR away to be game canon.
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