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# 61
01-19-2012, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by whamhammer View Post
Actually, as far as escorts go, you should be moving with your group, not having them chase you. You really need to stay with your group and lend the heavier firepower for them. That could be why you are flying "lone" out there.
If my group is unable to support me and I am useless because the mass of the enemy will lock on to me immediately and destroy me within 2,3 seconds flat. I am better suited going else where and helping out the team capture the points or distracting the enemy so my team can win.

The point of the game is to win, not to retry tactics that will not work in your circumstance.

And before you even suggest it's my build. No, this is not an issue with my build, an escort without support cannot take on a premade entire team that are all targeting it simultaneously. You need to change tactics depending on what happens in the game.

This is the worst advice I have ever received.
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# 62
01-19-2012, 04:35 AM
The non cloaking escort will almost always be attacked first. when not in combat run full power to shields, & keep your cursor sitting over your Tac team. You fed cruiser pilots should be targeting your escorts when out of combat & be ready to extend shields to it at a moments notice.
PVP 101.
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# 63
01-19-2012, 05:44 PM
I drop all the time in pvp... it if i see premade groups or team mates that do not work well together. I PVP for the love of the pvp not the dilithium.



Most often it is for the dilithium people play pvp missions imo.
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# 64
01-20-2012, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by weststar.name
If my group is unable to support me and I am useless because the mass of the enemy will lock on to me immediately and destroy me within 2,3 seconds flat. I am better suited going else where and helping out the team capture the points or distracting the enemy so my team can win.

The point of the game is to win, not to retry tactics that will not work in your circumstance.

And before you even suggest it's my build. No, this is not an issue with my build, an escort without support cannot take on a premade entire team that are all targeting it simultaneously. You need to change tactics depending on what happens in the game.

This is the worst advice I have ever received.
Never would have said its your build, you just ned to accept that you aren't the center of your team/world. If you were driving a Gal-X, I'd would've given you more lattitude. Escort playing Fedside has a tendancy to be a lone wolf attitude, and many players stick to that. When I'm driving a cruiser, well over half the time the escorts are running willy-nilly all over the place. I built my Excel' up to a 24.4 turn rate so I can stay with most of them and do what I can. Most cruisers cant follow an escort. Its your job to stay with them and keep in communication, ESCPECIALLY in pugs.

Also, you shouldn't be taking on an ENTIRE team. If you are, thats your own fault.

I use the fleet escort so can help myself when no one else can and still have great dps. Also MES comes in handy for avoiding contact untill youre close to them.
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# 65
01-20-2012, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by amidoinitright View Post
The non cloaking escort will almost always be attacked first. when not in combat run full power to shields, & keep your cursor sitting over your Tac team. You fed cruiser pilots should be targeting your escorts when out of combat & be ready to extend shields to it at a moments notice.
PVP 101.
PvP 102: MES is very helpfull

My tac is running a fleet escort, and I awlays make a point of staying with my group (when I have one). Plenty of Escorts I see just plain dont, they run off like beserkers to claim thier "Kirkness".

It is true that the cruisers should be throwing out more heals, but when the escorts run willy-nilly and out of range, theyre on their own.
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# 66
01-20-2012, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by weststar.name
Why is it in poor taste? I find it a perfectly acceptable tactic, you taunt a player or players who will then follow you to the end of the world as your team takes points.

I have no ill feelings towards anyone.
This isn't war, its a game. We need to try to keep it as friendly as we can, ESPECIALLY when theres a potential for so many new players comming online. Lets make the game fun and not be a bunch of elitists like other MMO PvP'ers.
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# 67
01-20-2012, 09:47 AM
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I have no issues with taunting someone in PvP. Downright vulgararity and low-brow comments, I do not like.
The problem is that the majority of the comments made in game are the vulgar and lowbrow.

People, its a game, not real life war. Lets make our PvP zones the friendliest PvP zones in all of MMO.
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# 68
01-20-2012, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by whamhammer View Post
you just ned to accept that you aren't the center of your team/world.
What do you think I'm doing? Not accepting that fact when I'm not getting supported and being completely useless against the pre-made organized team when I'm with my entire team?

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This isn't war, its a game.
It's a game for me, I don't know why you're getting all pent out about it.
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We need to try to keep it as friendly as we can
I'm not swearing or saying anything malicious, so I'd say I am already.

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Lets make the game fun and not be a bunch of elitists like other MMO PvP'ers.
What do you think I'm doing? Being boring by using tactics that won't work given the particular situation at hand? That's not very fun.
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# 69
01-20-2012, 10:05 AM
wow... wish I had a cryptic point for every time someone tried to take away something from the BOP which already has less of everything that every other ship has in the game.

MINUS:
1 weapon slot
1 tactical console slot
shields points
hull points
1 BOFF slot

If you are getting beaten by this ship, then you deserve to be teased (non-vulgar), and you need to challenge yourself to figure out how to defeat it and not QQ on the forums. I lose respect for PvPers who QQ about the BOP.. the weakest ship in the game.

Either you are too lazy to figure it out and ask for nerfs or you are incapable of figuring it out which is worse and therefore deserving of my pity.

I would rather you just give the BOP player the respect he is due for wiping your ship off the map of the galaxy with less resources overall.
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# 70
01-20-2012, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by weststar.name
What do you think I'm doing? Not accepting that fact when I'm not getting supported and being completely useless against the pre-made organized team when I'm with my entire team?.
Perhaps communicating the issue in a different fashion might help.

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Originally Posted by weststar.name
It's a game for me, I don't know why you're getting all pent out about it.I'm not swearing or saying anything malicious, so I'd say I am already..
I'm not pent up about it. The problem is that so many people DONT see this as a game and act as such. If you are acting properly, I give you kudos, many arent.

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Originally Posted by weststar.name
What do you think I'm doing? Being boring by using tactics that won't work given the particular situation at hand? That's not very fun.
The way that you were speaking made it sound like you thought you were the center of the group. If you dont feel that way, I appologize, but my point stands true for a great deal of Fed players out there, that dont use teamwork and expect everyone else to know what they are doing and think that the others are required to go along with them. Teamwork and communication is the #1 reason why Fed's go flaoting home in the debris......
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