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Lt. Commander
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# 51
01-28-2012, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic_One View Post
We also need to keep in mind that STO is a Star Trek emulation game. It's not Eve where you can just throw in any ship you want. Most of the classic Trek ships are Cruisers and that's what the Trek fans want to see and fly. The Intrepid, Defiant, Prometheus, Defiant, and Akira are in the game - basically most the canon non-cruiser ships. There's still tons of canon cruisers that haven't made it into the game yet.
But there are a lot of people who play this game that aren't huge Star trek fans but love this game that want more variety. In order to please both sides, it is tricky for the devs and I feel for them.
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# 52
01-28-2012, 07:44 AM
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But there are a lot of people who play this game that aren't huge Star trek fans but love this game that want more variety. In order to please both sides, it is tricky for the devs and I feel for them.
Cryptic doesn't have the option of pleasing everyone. Cryptic can only add to the game what CBS approves. The Jem'hadar ship, for example, was approved by CBS only because it would be in a very limited release and there would not be thousands of them flying around in the game. CBS is very particular about the image of their IP and Cryptic has to abide by those decisions.
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# 53
01-28-2012, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bigduckie
Didnt realise 12th resorted to calling other fleets "cheap"



What?
Oh, if you saw their chat log against us, you'd find I have absolutely no problem insulting children like that.

I got a minimum of 12 PMs following that match for no other reason than to insult and mock us.

So yeah... while I normally wouldn't discriminate, they bring the title on themselves.
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# 54
01-28-2012, 07:55 AM
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CBS is very particular about the image of their IP and Cryptic has to abide by those decisions.
http://trekmovie.com/2011/04/07/firs...-slot-machine/

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# 55
02-05-2012, 01:47 PM
Listen: I'm not saying that the Escorts need an OP supplament with the biggest guns in the Fleet.

I'm not saying that the new Flagship should have been purely an escort.

I'm not even saying that Escorts and Sci Vessels haven't gotten stuff that wasn't worthwile

My point is, that if Cryptic is going to introduce a "flagship", type vessel for both sides, the least they could do is offer a bit of variety in it.

The way I see it, there could be three varieties: The one that already exists, as the Eng. variant, one with slightly increased speed and shields, and reduced hull, and more Commander level Sci slots instead of Eng slots for Sci captains, and a variant with reduced hull and shields in exchange for better speed and turn rate and a Tactical lean for Tac captains.

You still have the Oddessey as a mainly Cruiser, but with a few tweaks so that everyone can be happy.
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# 56
02-05-2012, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ramp4ge View Post
Again, nobody's complaining about the escort performance. It's the hulls. It seems that every new hull that comes out is a cruiser or science ship, while escorts just get a remodel that shares virtually the same stats. Cruiser and Sci got two fantastic looking canon ships (Nebula, a non-canon Nebula, and 2 beautiful Excelsiors) with added capability and a good difference of variety from their tiers (Cloak detect stuff, transwarp, the ships being arguably some of the best at their tier..) and Escorts get a fugly tier 3 skin with a near-useless point-defense system. Yay? Escorts didn't get anything to match the tier 5 Excelsior or Nebula, which is where the tier 5 Akira (using the same model) and a tier 3 Steamrunner would come in handy.

A tier 5 Akira with:

32,000 hull
1.2x shield modifier
4 fore, 3 aft weapons slots
450 crew
Cmdr tac, Lt.Cmdr tac, Lt. Sci, Lt. Cmdr Eng, Lt. Uni spots
3 device slots
4 Tac, 3 Eng, 2 Sci consoles
12 turn
.18 Impulse Modifier
60 Inertia
+15 weapons power

Would be awesome. It'd be a hybrid cruiser/escort. Push come to shove, you could remove the ability for it to carry dual cannons, and it'd be a beam boater's dream ship. It'd turn a little slower then the Heavy Escort, and it has a slightly lower impulse modifier, but it makes up for that with better shielding and a stronger hull then the other escorts at tier 5. The extra engineering capabilities as well as the universal crew slot would also make up for the lack of cannons, while keeping the +15 weapons power and the lean toward the "tactical ship" side of things with the bias toward tactical crew slots and consoles.
And an escort with Commander Tac, Lt Commander Tac, and a Lt Commander Engineering, with no draw backs, is not OP how? What you have there is never going to happen, not at least until T6 comes out for all classes.

A T5 Akira would be awesome, but I dont see it, nor do I want it to be, OP.

On another similar note, I'm hoping to get a T5 Vesta Sci Ship (Sci Com/Tac Lt Com) someday soon (per http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...d.php?t=252033). That would at least up diversity for Science ships, and make sense if you read the books
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# 57
02-06-2012, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic_One View Post
Cryptic doesn't have the option of pleasing everyone. Cryptic can only add to the game what CBS approves. The Jem'hadar ship, for example, was approved by CBS only because it would be in a very limited release and there would not be thousands of them flying around in the game. CBS is very particular about the image of their IP and Cryptic has to abide by those decisions.

I wonder if CBS will ever or has caused us players any grief?
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# 58
02-06-2012, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Hakaishin
You just got the Jem'Hadar ship. You have the MVAE (arguably the most "flavored" ship in game). Fleet Escort. Defiant Retro (though not an end-game exclusive skin).

Hard for a wolf to call fowl to a sheep.
I never got a Jem'Hadar ship!
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# 59
02-06-2012, 03:43 AM
I think the thread about people who don't like what cruisers are saying they want to use cruisers pretty well establishes that if there's one new ship to be added, it should be a cruiser.

Cruisers are big, impressive, iconic. People simply don't get jolly about gunboats the way they do a bigass cruiser. That's just human nature.
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# 60
02-06-2012, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by aestu
Cruisers are big, impressive, iconic. People simply don't get jolly about gunboats the way they do a bigass cruiser. That's just human nature.
Well, I dunno, the Defiant has plenty of fans...
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