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Lt. Commander
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# 11
02-02-2012, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by whamhammer View Post
I'd pretty much argue that the Odyssey is the next step in Star cruiser evolution.
I hope you don't mind if not everyone agrees.
Personally i think the Odyssey is not half as beautiful as a avenger class.
(Fat neck and oversized nacelles is not what i call beautiful).
It would have been cool if you could use the same BO layout the Odyssey has on your Star Cruiser!
(just dreaming )


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# 12
02-02-2012, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgeHopper View Post
The new Odyssey class is a beautiful ship, and I'm actually very much looking forward to its entrance into the game. It, more than any design I have seen so far fits the Tactical Captain I had originally worked on the best, at least in terms of bridge officer layout and so forth.

That being said, the Star Cruiser is meant to be a futuristic, heavy cruiser meant as a major platform for deep space exploration. I know it isn't for everyone, but I know quite a few people (like myself) have always thought it is a beautiful ship. I'd love to see more tinkering available for this design in the future. The new odyssey and the Star Cruiser both have a 'Fish-like' design that I love. That perhaps explains why I think the Nausicaan models are so fantastic. At any regard, I'd love to see a 5+ Star Cruiser retrofit some day, and I'm just weighing in my opinion here. I'd hate to see this design go by the wayside as the game develops in the future, when it could be properly retrofitted to grow with the game. That is all.
I would absolutely love a retrofit of the Star Cruiser!
There's things about the design of the Odyssey I like, but it's not nearly as nice as the Star Cruiser I was using before (Avenger saucer, Nomad hull, Nomad nacelles and Vanguard pylons).

Maybe give players the option to use the designs from the Star Cruisers with the Odyssey?
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# 13
02-02-2012, 09:08 PM
I too am a fan of the Star Cruiser. I think it's the sleekest sexiest ship in the game and the primary reason I fly it with my fed toon.

Off the top of my head my config is something like: Emissary saucer, Avenger hull, Avenger pylon, Nomad nacelles.

I've been hoping for a +1 retro fit of one for a while.


While the odyssey looks to be a Star Cruiser in console layout and BO slots the only real difference is +3k hull and the extra power to shields and aux. I wouldn't really call it a +1 to the Avenger/Vanguard/Emissary/Nomad class ships, especially with the neck, something the former ones don't have. That and the lack of a bonus console.
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# 14
02-03-2012, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Yreodred

I hope you don't mind if not everyone agrees.
Personally i think the Odyssey is not half as beautiful as a avenger class.
(Fat neck and oversized nacelles is not what i call beautiful).
It would have been cool if you could use the same BO layout the Odyssey has on your Star Cruiser!
(just dreaming )


Live long and prosper.
I never asked for agreement or disagreement. Your opinion is yours and mine is mine. If you look at the overall design of purpose for the ship, it seems to be a Star cruiser though. my opinion has little to do with appearance, but in function.
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# 15
02-03-2012, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by whamhammer View Post
I never asked for agreement or disagreement.Your opinion is yours and mine is mine.
Sure no one argued the converse. (i hope thats the right expression).
I just wanted to be polite, sorry for that.

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Originally Posted by whamhammer View Post
If you look at the overall design of purpose for the ship, it seems to be a Star cruiser though. my opinion has little to do with appearance, but in function.
Well the BO layout is much more felxible, so if this ship would be only half as slow it could work very well as escort/cruiser hybrid for example. But you are right science cruiser works much better because of its high number of science consoles.

If you choose to use a Engineer on the universal station, this ship has exactly the same BO layout as a normal Star Cruiser. In the end we have a much slower and may i say uglier Star Cruiser. To speak of a next step would be a exaggeration, it is much too similar IMHO.


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# 16
02-03-2012, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Yreodred

Sure no one argued the converse. (i hope thats the right expression).
I just wanted to be polite, sorry for that.


Well the BO layout is much more felxible, so if this ship would be only half as slow it could work very well as escort/cruiser hybrid for example. But you are right science cruiser works much better because of its high number of science consoles.

If you choose to use a Engineer on the universal station, this ship has exactly the same BO layout as a normal Star Cruiser. In the end we have a much slower and may i say uglier Star Cruiser. To speak of a next step would be a exaggeration, it is much too similar IMHO.


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Except that it has more power to shields and more hull hit points (and less of a turner), but it pretty much screams star cruiser with the console layout.
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# 17
02-03-2012, 04:46 PM
I think of it as a star cruiser on steroids.
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# 18
02-03-2012, 05:20 PM
Personally i would be the happiest player in STO if we could get a Star Cruiser +1 variant where the Lt. Cmdr. Bo slot is universal and additionally 1 universal Console.

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# 19
02-05-2012, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Yreodred
Personally i would be the happiest player in STO if we could get a Star Cruiser +1 variant where the Lt. Cmdr. Bo slot is universal and additionally 1 universal Console.

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Kind of like the Odyssey? Lt. Cmdr universal and Borg Console.
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# 20
02-05-2012, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by whamhammer View Post
Kind of like the Odyssey? Lt. Cmdr universal and Borg Console.
Except that i find the Odyssey ugly, unpropotioned and much to slow turning.
My point was that, i would be hyppy if +1 Star Cruisers would get a universal Lt. Cmdr BO slot, just like the Odyssey.
A universal Console would help to make the Star Cruiser more a unique Cruiser than just a flying hospital.
Especially the Avenger Class (what a name for a healing vessel) would be great if it could be used for more offensive tactics.


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