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So on my first character, not really knowing what was what, I made a tactical officer thinking that tactical = combat intensive, thinking engineering would be support and science would be healing.

From the beginning I wanted to have large cruiser ships, you can probably guess where this is going. I have been reading around here and found that it seems there is a majority consensus that tactical captains should stick to escorts, with that in mind I tried escorts for T3 and 4, and read guides for maximizing escorts. While i did do a lot of damage, i found that playing like a deploy-able turret was boring, close to firing range, slow to 1/4 and spam aoe fire, hit tactical team to tank incoming fire, rinse, repeat.

The one thing I always liked about star trek space combat is managing facing shields and fore and aft weapon reloads. So at T5 i decided to try the Assault Cruiser. The basically stock version that i have is fairly underwhelming, but most stock ships probably are.

I know there are people like Hakaishin, who apparently do well in the Galaxy-X but I don't know that i want to spend 25 bucks on a single ship.

So with that said, a few questions:
1: Can a tactical excel in a cruiser, particularly other than the Galexy-X or Excelsior refit?

2: Is the tactical captain the only one that is bad in other ship types? or is engineer/science in an escort as bad as a tactical in a cruiser/science vessel?
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# 2
02-01-2012, 05:28 PM
Tac Captain can be good in a Cruiser you just need to well....play it like a cruiser. Don't try to fly her like an escort and you'll be fine. You'll be somewhat squishier than an Eng captain will but you'll also have some great firepower bonuses going for you. The Excelsior was the ship of choice for many a Tactical Captain in a Cruiser who wasn't willing to go for the Dreadnought, but I'm not sure if this is still the case since F2P.
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# 3
02-01-2012, 05:46 PM
Tactical in a Science Ship is devastating.

Tactical in a Cruiser is devastating.

Tactical in an Escort is devastating.

Engineer in a Science Ship is beast.

Engineer in a Cruiser is beefy beast.

Engineer in an Escort is like your girlfriend giving you a quicky - fast AND awesome.

Science in a Science Ship is annoying as **** to fight.

Science in a Cruiser is annoying as **** to kill.

Science in an Escort is a pain in the *** altogether.

I hope this answers most of your concerns.

There is no such thing as a bad ship... or really, even a bad combination.

Just a bad captain.
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# 4
02-01-2012, 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hakaishin
There is no such thing as a bad ship... or really, even a bad combination.

Just a bad captain.
Well said, sir.

OP: I think the biggest question in the game is deciding how you want to play it. Do you want to laugh off hits? Do you want to just utterly melt things? Or does being able to use all sorts of buffs and debuffs appeal? Or perhaps some combination thereof?

Experiment, see what you like, and roll with it. That's my two cents.
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# 5
02-01-2012, 06:23 PM
That's reassuring, i have been seeing mainly people saying these 2 things:

a: Tactical captains that use cruisers are bad and anybody using that combo in PVP or STFs is losing it for their team.

b: Tactical captains in cruisers are fine, I do just fine and i have used all cruisers on my tac.

Both of those statements seem skewed.

As far as my play-style, i usually prefer something in-between tank and DPS, something that isn't going to instantly die if it gets targeted but still has a bite to it.
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# 6
02-01-2012, 06:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pondara
That's reassuring, i have been seeing mainly people saying these 2 things:

a: Tactical captains that use cruisers are bad and anybody using that combo in PVP or STFs is losing it for their team.

b: Tactical captains in cruisers are fine, I do just fine and i have used all cruisers on my tac.

Both of those statements seem skewed.

As far as my play-style, i usually prefer something in-between tank and DPA, something that isn't going to instantly die if it gets targeted but still has a bite to it.
I'm a Tactical in a Cruiser, and arguably one of the most feared targets when encountered in a PvP match.

By itself, proof that the rumors are just that... rumors.

Fly what feels right. You'll find a way to make it work.
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# 7
02-01-2012, 09:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pondara
That's reassuring, i have been seeing mainly people saying these 2 things:

a: Tactical captains that use cruisers are bad and anybody using that combo in PVP or STFs is losing it for their team.

b: Tactical captains in cruisers are fine, I do just fine and i have used all cruisers on my tac.

Both of those statements seem skewed.

As far as my play-style, i usually prefer something in-between tank and DPS, something that isn't going to instantly die if it gets targeted but still has a bite to it.
Tactical Captains in Cruisers are like Hunters* in WoW.

Everybody seems to do it, and 90% of them are bad. But if done right, they can be amazing.

*Insert whatever combination here you want that you are familiar with

Edit: Also <--- Science Captain in an Escort
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# 8
02-01-2012, 11:57 PM
tact. captain is indeed dps oriented. And there is nothing wrong for a tact to fly a cruiser (such as excelsior or dreadnought). Actually i think it is one of the better option for pve as a tact. captain. Although lots of people believe in high mobility and high turn rate, but the fact is cruiser provide a lot better survibilty than escort in pve even with it's low turn rate/speed and remember the famous saying? - "no dps if dead dps"

I fly both escort and cruiser, and to my experience escort is like a glass-cannon, you either kill something fast or get killed fast, while cruiser is slow, tanky, provide good, steady dps while lasting much longer.
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# 9
02-02-2012, 12:09 AM
I fly a tac in a cruiser, and while I don't have the lt. commander slot that i'd like for my sovereign, i still do fine either by myself or as part of a team.

All it takes is learning the game, and you'll be fine.
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