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# 21
02-06-2012, 03:38 PM
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Maybe, but pre-up MES cloaking values were near the bortas cloak and it was as useless if I remember correctly (and variation of cloak rating from skill+aux is in the 2% range, not even close to 20%).

Anyway, we agree its cloak is ridiculous and it should be fixed.

EDIT : Hum well, Kerrus proved me that I am wrong
EDIT 2 : Hell no, my b'rel cloak is at 4973 (with 0 skill investment), it's not even near to 4007. Khaine told me his MES III was somwhere 4700 (was more) cloak rating, it's closer to my b'rel than my bortas 3983.

Are you sure your bop's cloak was 4012 and not 5012?
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# 22
02-06-2012, 04:32 PM
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Ice Cream trucks worked well for Cheech and Chong, besides who doesn't like ice cream?
So you have met my engineering team???? They also double as my strategists...
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# 23
02-06-2012, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Warpstalker
(to Maverius)
Maybe, but pre-up MES cloaking values were near the bortas cloak and it was as useless if I remember correctly (and variation of cloak rating from skill+aux is in the 2% range, not even close to 20%).

Anyway, we agree its cloak is ridiculous and it should be fixed.

EDIT : Hum well, Kerrus proved me that I am wrong
EDIT 2 : Hell no, my b'rel cloak is at 4973 (with 0 skill investment), it's not even near to 4007. Khaine told me his MES III was somwhere 4700 (was more) cloak rating, it's closer to my b'rel than my bortas 3983.

Are you sure your bop's cloak was 4012 and not 5012?
Has MES gone downhill since the revision? I remember using MES II on my Excel' to "decloak" 3 km in front of a pesky B.O.P. and scare the bejeezus out of them when they picking on a bud' of mine in Kerrat. I loved the allegations of "hacking" that the B.O.P.'er layed on me in chat... oh the memories....
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# 24
02-06-2012, 04:41 PM
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So you have met my engineering team???? They also double as my strategists...
lol- risky but great pay-off when it works. Thats explains why thier EWP is purple haze instead of blue
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# 25
02-06-2012, 05:09 PM
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My Bortas uses an inflatable mockup of itself to hide the real ships presence.
It worked for the Enterprise, until the Romulans fired on it and deflated it. Man, were they ****ed...

(KIRK IS A JERK)
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# 26
02-07-2012, 09:12 AM
Here are some numbers at 48 aux power and +0 to stealth skill :

Normal cloak : 4973
Bortas cloak : 3979 -> 80.01% of normal cloak
MES I : 4553 -> 91.55% of normal cloak
MES II : 4653 -> 93.57% of normal cloak

As you can see, turning off lights gives better results !
Klingon's cloaking technology is fail.
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# 27
02-07-2012, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HF_Mudd
It worked for the Enterprise, until the Romulans fired on it and deflated it. Man, were they ****ed...

(KIRK IS A JERK)
Hey, if it buys time, it buys time...
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# 28
02-07-2012, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Warpstalker
Here are some numbers at 48 aux power and +0 to stealth skill :

Normal cloak : 4973
Bortas cloak : 3979 -> 80.01% of normal cloak
MES I : 4553 -> 91.55% of normal cloak
MES II : 4653 -> 93.57% of normal cloak

As you can see, turning off lights gives better results !
Klingon's cloaking technology is fail.
Even more reason for the Klink's big ships to "go green" rofl.
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# 29
02-07-2012, 10:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Warpstalker
(to Maverius)
Maybe, but pre-up MES cloaking values were near the bortas cloak and it was as useless if I remember correctly (and variation of cloak rating from skill+aux is in the 2% range, not even close to 20%).

Anyway, we agree its cloak is ridiculous and it should be fixed.

EDIT : Hum well, Kerrus proved me that I am wrong
EDIT 2 : Hell no, my b'rel cloak is at 4973 (with 0 skill investment), it's not even near to 4007. Khaine told me his MES III was somwhere 4700 (was more) cloak rating, it's closer to my b'rel than my bortas 3983.

Are you sure your bop's cloak was 4012 and not 5012?
At max aux, 6 pts in stealth, and no extra stealth console support, my BoP's cloak rating is 5077 sitting at 0 impulse. At 0 impulse, my defense value is 65%... when moving at full impulse, my defense value is 135%. With full power in impulse and 66/50 in aux, my cloak effectiveness is 5033.

On my defiant-r, the stats are the following.... umm WOW????
At max aux, 3 points in stealth and no extra stealth console support, my defiant's cloak rating is 55,626 sitting at 0 impulse???? At 0 impulse, my defense value was 50%.... when moving at full impulse, my defense values is 120%. With full power in pulse and 60/50 in aux, my cloak effectiveness was 55,135.


Does this meant he cloaking console can never be detected???? Damn.. feds get another break.. first it was the maco shield, now it is the cloaking console. Are you devs biased in favor of feds or something?

This is with the new cloak console.. something seem off? These are the only 2 ships with cloaking ability that I have.

Also, are you saying that pts in stealth for a bop isn't needed? I had a sci detect me at 22KM when that was the case (or I might have had 3 pts in stealth I think)
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# 30
02-07-2012, 11:00 AM
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Does this meant he cloaking console can never be detected???? Damn.. feds get another break.. first it was the maco shield, now it is the cloaking console.

This is with the new cloak console.. something seem off? These are the only 2 ships with cloaking ability that I have.
You seem surprised.
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