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# 21
02-09-2012, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Commadore_Bob
[...] Impulse engines, if I recall, are just glorified chemical engines and rely on ye olde thrust to move the ship.
According to canon, they are fusion rockets, but of course, this still means Newtonian space flight. Which obviously isn't the case, at least not in STO. So I keep my "impulse is a sublight warp drive" theory, as it works better for me.
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# 22
02-09-2012, 02:35 AM
The impulse Drives are just powerful ion based propulsion. hence they leave ion trails like in so many episodes.

1701 - D Full forward impulse speed is like 0.7 LS or something like that.

Tho the warp Scale is Not linear
warp 4 is not 4 times faster than warp 1 it's more like 7 times.
In a episode of tng
A trip to a planet at warp 3 was going to take 21 mins but at warp 5 it was 4 minutes.
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# 23
02-09-2012, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Berlorian
The impulse Drives are just powerful ion based propulsion. hence they leave ion trails like in so many episodes.

1701 - D Full forward impulse speed is like 0.7 LS or something like that.

Tho the warp Scale is Not linear
warp 4 is not 4 times faster than warp 1 it's more like 7 times.
In a episode of tng
A trip to a planet at warp 3 was going to take 21 mins but at warp 5 it was 4 minutes.
It's an exponential scale. According to one of the TNG writers or set designers (or something), it was something like velocity = (speed of light) x (warp factor)^(10/3)
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# 24
02-09-2012, 06:08 AM
velocity = (speed required for plot) x (warp factor)^(10/3)
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# 25
02-09-2012, 06:20 AM
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It's an exponential scale. According to one of the TNG writers or set designers (or something), it was something like velocity = (speed of light) x (warp factor)^(10/3)
Which I never liked. It would have made more sense if it were a logarithmic scale. In that warp 8 wasn't 100% faster than warp 7, but only 0.3 times faster than warp 7.
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# 26
02-09-2012, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pvnrt
It's an exponential scale. According to one of the TNG writers or set designers (or something), it was something like velocity = (speed of light) x (warp factor)^(10/3)
That was the TOS scale. TNG had a different one.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Warp_factor
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# 27
02-09-2012, 08:25 AM
If I remember, TNG's scale was based on the energy/power needed to reach a certain warp velocity. So a logarithmic scale would not make sense. And most likely the exponential formula used instead is plausible.

It is curiously ironic how close the warp factor dilemma mimics real world understanding of the speed of light, given that we used to think it required infinite energy to reach FTL, but recent studies have proven this may be wrong. (link)

TNG Warp 10 is supposed to represent infinite travel, yet we see ships flying at Warp 14 in All Good Things, perhaps because someone broke the laws of warp theory but the scale wasn't modified?
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# 28
02-09-2012, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Kobayashi Maru
ITNG Warp 10 is supposed to represent infinite travel, yet we see ships flying at Warp 14 in All Good Things, perhaps because someone broke the laws of warp theory but the scale wasn't modified?
I think some admiral got tired of saying, "Helm, set a course for Earth and engage at Warp 9.9999999997" and decided "to hell with this" and adjusted the scale.
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# 29
02-09-2012, 09:56 AM
So if we're going faster than what was Warp 10 in Voyager, why haven't we all devolved into large slug like critters? :p
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# 30
02-09-2012, 10:11 AM
Funnily enough, according to Mike Okuda torpedoes are always launched at warp speed no matter if the ship is standing still or at warp. It's probably why that Klingon fleet that attacked DS9 didn't fair too well. :p
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