Lt. Commander
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# 1 Gold membership advantage
02-06-2012, 05:58 PM
Hi, I have played only since the free to play. I tried a few things and than take a month of gold membership the next week-end. I really like the game, but I find that there are not many advantages to be gold member. It unlock one character slot, give you 400 CP, but that's about that. OK, it's allow you to unlock some things that silver member cannot. But common, with 400 points you cannot do much. I'm already Commander, but I have a lot of thing to unlock, but 400 CP. OK, those thing are not essential, fine, but I took gold membership to unlock them. So, if I am to be unable to do so, I will continue with F2P.

Don't take me wrong, I really like the game, before I saw what little gold membership receive, I was even thinking to the lifetime subscription. So, give more CP and/or unlock some things like cargo, bank spaces and/or lower the prices of items that are bought with CP by 15-20% for gold member. But give us a big more incentive! I want to help you make money and make the game better, but I want a bit more in return.
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# 2
02-06-2012, 06:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stephane2258
Hi, I have played only since the free to play. I tried a few things and than take a month of gold membership the next week-end. I really like the game, but I find that there are not many advantages to be gold member. It unlock one character slot, give you 400 CP, but that's about that. OK, it's allow you to unlock some things that silver member cannot. But common, with 400 points you cannot do much. I'm already Commander, but I have a lot of thing to unlock, but 400 CP. OK, those thing are not essential, fine, but I took gold membership to unlock them. So, if I am to be unable to do so, I will continue with F2P.

Don't take me wrong, I really like the game, before I saw what little gold membership receive, I was even thinking to the lifetime subscription. So, give more CP and/or unlock some things like cargo, bank spaces and/or lower the prices of items that are bought with CP by 15-20% for gold member. But give us a big more incentive! I want to help you make money and make the game better, but I want a bit more in return.
we asked, begged, pleaded, yelled at, and anything else we could to get them to do jsut that. We were better served yelling at the nearest wall. They have no interest in making it more worthwhile.
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# 3
02-06-2012, 06:39 PM
I'm just happy that I got the lifetime subscription early enough that by the time F2P rolled around, I had got my money's worth of game time. I bought it fully expecting to play for more than a year and a half.
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# 4
02-06-2012, 06:50 PM
They won't.... and getting a lifetime account now would be an unprofitable choice. I got mine when the game released so I got my monies worth, everything now is just extra. It's not worth it to step up to gold, it's cheaper in the long run to purchase those extra character slots when needed. Seeing that we were ignored during F2P beta we should expect more c-store less gold/lifer incentive. They make more money nickle and diming everyone.... not just the F2P players. They should offer a huge bonus package that could come with a lifetime purchase, of which I hope they award it to current lifers. But, seeing their current F2P model, this would provide a quick influx of cash. Of course PWE is pretty much the King of F2P games from what I've seen. I personally can't predict where the game will be in one year.
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# 5
02-06-2012, 07:22 PM
Thanks for the reply, even if they are not very encouraging. So, from what I see, I will continue as F2P, even if some limitation bother me. And if they bother me too much, I will just go find something else. I also play to LotRO, their F2P is well done and even a month of VIP (gold membership) unlock a lock of things and give you points.
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# 6
02-06-2012, 07:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stephane2258
Hi, I have played only since the free to play. I tried a few things and than take a month of gold membership the next week-end. I really like the game, but I find that there are not many advantages to be gold member. It unlock one character slot, give you 400 CP, but that's about that. OK, it's allow you to unlock some things that silver member cannot. But common, with 400 points you cannot do much. I'm already Commander, but I have a lot of thing to unlock, but 400 CP. OK, those thing are not essential, fine, but I took gold membership to unlock them. So, if I am to be unable to do so, I will continue with F2P.

Don't take me wrong, I really like the game, before I saw what little gold membership receive, I was even thinking to the lifetime subscription. So, give more CP and/or unlock some things like cargo, bank spaces and/or lower the prices of items that are bought with CP by 15-20% for gold member. But give us a big more incentive! I want to help you make money and make the game better, but I want a bit more in return.
well, i can tell you one thing that, to me, makes it worth it. this past weekend i saw something i had not seen since week 1 of beta and launch.. a sign on queue. Anne who has a silver acct queued in @ 1569 of 1569
i launched a minute or two later, she was up to 900 or so, and i was number 3. no to low queue rates makes it worth it

now if they made the captains table more intersting and gold only that would be a perk
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# 7
02-07-2012, 12:51 AM
They really should have followed Turbine in the hybrid game model. There needs to be an advantage to being a subscriber compared to an f2p player. I played LotRO too I left due to the mazes of moria, when they went f2p I decided to check it out all the restrictions that apply to f2p players also applied to full players who didn't have an active sub. For example I had a number of characers on the account, I could however only access one of them. The model Turbine use has worked well for them in both DDO and LotRO without punishing the subscribers or life time members.

To me they should do the following:
1. Up the amount of the stipend it should be atleast 1000cp
2. Make c-store ships available for free for the promotion token, after the free one then they can pay whatever the price is like you do with dilithium at the moment. This would require an additional token for f2p players so they can't get c-store ships for free.
3. Restrict access to parts of the game for f2p players and chage c-points if f2p want access to those parts for example STFs or even entire sectors
4. Remove the c-point cost of uniform cosmetics for subscribers, not the c-store ones but the ones in the tailor
5. Give subscribers more than one extra character slot for free, they should have atleast three characters slots on both sides to cover all the careers.

That's just a few of the things.

As it is there is no incentive to be a subscriber even after subscription you do not lose anything by going f2p. This is wong. I am not the only person who would be willing to subscribe, even though it costs more than a WoW subscription dieto VAT about 10.99 compared to 8.99 a month, if there was actually an incentive to do so. I have seen f2pers like myself asking what the advantagers are in game and when told basically saying it isn't worth it.
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# 8
02-07-2012, 02:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stephane2258
Hi, I have played only since the free to play. I tried a few things and than take a month of gold membership the next week-end. I really like the game, but I find that there are not many advantages to be gold member. It unlock one character slot, give you 400 CP, but that's about that. OK, it's allow you to unlock some things that silver member cannot. But common, with 400 points you cannot do much. I'm already Commander, but I have a lot of thing to unlock, but 400 CP. OK, those thing are not essential, fine, but I took gold membership to unlock them. So, if I am to be unable to do so, I will continue with F2P.

Don't take me wrong, I really like the game, before I saw what little gold membership receive, I was even thinking to the lifetime subscription. So, give more CP and/or unlock some things like cargo, bank spaces and/or lower the prices of items that are bought with CP by 15-20% for gold member. But give us a big more incentive! I want to help you make money and make the game better, but I want a bit more in return.
Gold gives you:

- More bank slots
- More Inventory slots
- Another character slot
- Higher credit limit
- Free respec tokens per rank
- Foundry slots and those
- 400 CP
- Some other scraps

Frankly, it gives almost everything you've asked for. In my opinion a 15-20% discount would be better for frequent buyers than the 400 CP - but for people who have already purchased all they want, then saving the CP is really better imo.

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# 9
02-07-2012, 02:27 AM
If you don't want to pay for it don't. Otherwise if you want to help the company because you like the game, well buy some CP. Silver is not supposed to be some sort of trial and Perfect World is a company that makes it's revenue out of the free to play model.

But anyway gold already gets you more bank, inventory space, more Boff spots, respec tokens, veteran rewards and so on i don't get where you got your information that it's just 400 cp and a character slot. A fair number of new people i've talked to in the game plan on going gold just to get all the initial perks.

It's a real shame that a few people are willing to ruin the game experience for the majority of the population just to feel "exclusive".
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# 10
02-07-2012, 02:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nynik


Gold gives you:

- More bank slots
- More Inventory slots
- Another character slot
- Higher credit limit
- Free respec tokens per rank
- Foundry slots and those
- 400 CP
- Some other scraps
Most of which you don't lose when going back to f2p. Turbine made it so you have the same restrictions as f2p even to past subscribers if you didn't have an active subscription. You don't lose anything that is outside of the f2p access it is just locked until you either subscribe or pay for them to be unlocked. As such buy the game for cheap and then don't subscribe.

It costs about 7+ for the game depending on where you go. The sub is 10+ including VAT, that roughly equates to $15 that's twice the price of 500cp let alone the 400 stipend, 1000cp is less than that. For less than 2 months sub I can get 2500cp (roughly 20.80) yet it would cost me 70+ to get that through subscription stipend -300cp difference. For roughly 46.66 I could have 5000 cp.

The foundry slots are for creating the missions. How many of the average players do you think in reality are making them?
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