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Once again, I am dissappointed in the Devs. I have been with the game since Beta and Launch, and I stick with it today, despite numerous previous dissappointments. Some people, including my friends, even urged me to cancel my sub, which I was not going to do. But this is not about me, this is about the fact that for the billionth time since launch, the Devs have proved that unless the community gets down on it's knees and begs, it's perfectly fine never touching the Escort and Science Vessel classes again.

"But Spartan, there are so many advanced Sci vessels and Escorts, and THEY were made by the devs!"

You're half-right. The newer Sci-vessels were made for 2 reasons: 1, people wanted historic ship classes that weren't in the game, and 2, Fed players wanted a ship that could more easily counter Klingon cloaking.


But on the Escort side of things, the Devs have NEVER made ANY updates to the ship class, or added new ships in general, unless we BEGGED for it. The Retrofit Defiant was a kick in the pants at best. And the Multi-Vector Assault Escort would never had existed, had there not been a massive argument over a Federation battleship-type vessel to counter Klingon Dreds that was threatning to rip the community to shreds.

Case in point, I think that the Devs have been BLATANTLY NEGLECTING the Science Vessel and Escort class ships, and as of yet, there seems to be no remedy. The current Fed flagship-class vessel is firmly in the Cruiser Class, rather than being the first fully or half universal ship in the Federation classes that was NOT a Shuttle. This leaves Escort and Sci Vessel captains by the wayside with no means of catching up to Cruiser captains.

SUMMATION: IT IS MY BELIEF THAT THE DEVELOPERS OF THE GAME, HENCEFORTH KNOWN AS "STAR TREK ONLINE", SHOULD EITHER MODIFY THE ODDESSY CLASS TO BE MORE EASILY UTILIZED BY NON-CRUISER CAPTAINS, OR SHOULD IMMEDIATLY BEFORE THE RELEASE OF ANY OTHER CONTENT, DEVELOP A SIMILARLY RANKED ESCORT AND SCI VESSEL.

Comments most certainly welcome.
Lt. Commander
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# 2
01-25-2012, 06:33 PM
We've known about the Odyssey since late 2010. It's been done since May of 2011 just waiting to be released. So now the Devs suck because they're giving us something we've known about for a year? Really?
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# 3
01-25-2012, 06:37 PM
Easiest way to remedy the lack of an engineering escort would be to mod the nebbies with a tactical pod, and swap all the sci and tac stations on it. Instant engineering escort.
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# 4
01-25-2012, 07:00 PM
I agree that Escorts and Science vessels need some endgame love, but not at the expense of what we already have. Cryptic did well with the Odyssey (and its KDF counterpart, which I am actually more excited about).

Now that we have this monster of a cruiser perhaps the Devs can give us some fancy VA Escorts and Science vessels that ARE NOT Refits?
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# 5
01-25-2012, 07:08 PM
Escorts needing love...? lol...

Wow. The most conceited thing I've heard in a while.

Sci ships do need some love, I admit that. Sci has been the ******* child of STO for a while.

But Escorts? Wow...

WTB people who aren't lobbying to OP their own professions at everyone else's expense. PST offer, paying well.

I flew Escorts for a long, long time. They were so ROFL stupid easy that my five year old son was scoring PvP kills while I watched a movie with my wife.

I wanted something that took... well, a brain... to fly. So I picked the one ship everyone laughs at, and turned it into a monster.

This whining is rather entertaining, however, I do have to admit. I suppose I'll break out the popcorn and let this continue for a while in silence.
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# 6
01-25-2012, 07:12 PM
Annnd, the point just sailed over your head at warp 9.

They're sick and tired of cruisers getting all the hulls, instead of Escorts and Sci ships, which do need more to beef them up to the end-game selection that cruisers have.
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# 7
01-25-2012, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Hakaishin
Escorts needing love...? lol...

Wow. The most conceited thing I've heard in a while.

Sci ships do need some love, I admit that. Sci has been the ******* child of STO for a while.

But Escorts? Wow...

WTB people who aren't lobbying to OP their own professions at everyone else's expense. PST offer, paying well.

I flew Escorts for a long, long time. They were so ROFL stupid easy that my five year old son was scoring PvP kills while I watched a movie with my wife.

I wanted something that took... well, a brain... to fly. So I picked the one ship everyone laughs at, and turned it into a monster.

This whining is rather entertaining, however, I do have to admit. I suppose I'll break out the popcorn and let this continue for a while in silence.
Speaking of conceited..

I don't think the OP's post was about the Escort ships being underpowered at any rate. It was about flavor.. and I taste a whooole lot of Cruiser in this soup. There are exactly 0 new and interesting Escort ships at endgame, and only 1 new and interesting Science ship at endgame (Vulcan ship). All they have are refits... damn refits.
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# 8
01-25-2012, 07:18 PM
So you felt that the Enterprise F debut should have been an Escort, which by definition shouldn't be a flagship (an anchor for a fleet).

I'm not entirely certain I'm the one who is missing the point.
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# 9
01-25-2012, 07:22 PM
We also need to keep in mind that STO is a Star Trek emulation game. It's not Eve where you can just throw in any ship you want. Most of the classic Trek ships are Cruisers and that's what the Trek fans want to see and fly. The Intrepid, Defiant, Prometheus, Defiant, and Akira are in the game - basically most the canon non-cruiser ships. There's still tons of canon cruisers that haven't made it into the game yet.
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# 10
01-25-2012, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lennan View Post
Speaking of conceited..

I don't think the OP's post was about the Escort ships being underpowered at any rate. It was about flavor.. and I taste a whooole lot of Cruiser in this soup. There are exactly 0 new and interesting Escort ships at endgame, and only 1 new and interesting Science ship at endgame (Vulcan ship). All they have are refits... damn refits.
You just got the Jem'Hadar ship. You have the MVAE (arguably the most "flavored" ship in game). Fleet Escort. Defiant Retro (though not an end-game exclusive skin).

Hard for a wolf to call fowl to a sheep.
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