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So, from the release notes...

We're going to be able to equipe the +1 consoles on any ship now. Seems like a good thing at first, but when you consider that even some single consoles are a bit OP (A Theta Radiation Console can and often is a death sentence in PvP), what are the implications fo the combinations of these consoles that will now be available?

Please, keep the rage out if you don't like, not for my sake or for the sake of keeping this thread open, but because this is something that merits careful consideration.
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# 2
02-08-2012, 07:10 PM
Impulse Burst Console+Photonic Displacement+Point Defense+Antimatter Spread=Sovvy of Death.

Just saying. Closes with you, confuses you and destroys most attempts to fire back, and when it needs to go away, *poof*

I suppose we could throw in the grappler as well, just to make it extra-painful.
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# 3
02-08-2012, 07:12 PM
Well... now that it doesn't conflict with deflector skills like grav well... I expect the KDF's Isometric Charge to be popular... it's actually quite great.
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# 4
02-08-2012, 07:15 PM
keep in mind, it says T4 and below, so any that are on T5 ships only still wont work on other classes.

so the MVAM Console wont work on other ships, the T5 Gal-x and Tac Retrofit wont work on other ships, T5 Neb's console wont owrk on other hsips, same with intrepid retro's.

I dont offhandedly remember what consoles are what tier, but i do know it means any ship can access the Exter's fire on cloaked ships console..... that one kinda screws over klinks in a way, they gotta worry about all ships now, not just cruisers for that.
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# 5
02-08-2012, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Cpt_Richardson View Post
Impulse Burst Console+Photonic Displacement+Point Defense+Antimatter Spread=Sovvy of Death.

Just saying. Closes with you, confuses you and destroys most attempts to fire back, and when it needs to go away, *poof*

I suppose we could throw in the grappler as well, just to make it extra-painful.
So, one implication could be that rather than these consoles adding to and supplementing your build, we could see entire attack strategies based on certain combinations? Which inevitably means a very broken combination will be found and widely used.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenkari
keep in mind, it says T4 and below, so any that are on T5 ships only still wont work on other classes.

so the MVAM Console wont work on other ships, the T5 Gal-x and Tac Retrofit wont work on other ships, T5 Neb's console wont owrk on other hsips, same with intrepid retro's.

I dont offhandedly remember what consoles are what tier, but i do know it means any ship can access the Exter's fire on cloaked ships console..... that one kinda screws over klinks in a way, they gotta worry about all ships now, not just cruisers for that.
Mostly because those consoles just wont work on other ships.

Saucer sep and MVAM can only work on the ships they come with (except for t4 Galaxy). To make Ablative Armour work on all ships new animations will have to be made for each and every ship. Also, the Excelsior and Nebula retrofits have lower tier verions of their consoles too, which are only slightly worse than their higer tier counterparts.

The exception here is the cloaking device, which is meant to be heavily restricted for the feds.
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# 6
02-08-2012, 07:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenkari
keep in mind, it says T4 and below, so any that are on T5 ships only still wont work on other classes.

so the MVAM Console wont work on other ships, the T5 Gal-x and Tac Retrofit wont work on other ships, T5 Neb's console wont owrk on other hsips, same with intrepid retro's.

I dont offhandedly remember what consoles are what tier, but i do know it means any ship can access the Exter's fire on cloaked ships console..... that one kinda screws over klinks in a way, they gotta worry about all ships now, not just cruisers for that.
the mvam, cloak, saucer sep, intrepid armor are the only teir 5 fed consoles i can think of. and im not sure the saucer sep is actuall a console. and i assume when the cstore odessy comes out itll be a teir 5+ console so it wont work either.

this is ****ing insane!

no notice about this till the day of? wtf are they thinking. pvp is in shambles already this will be one of the finishing blows.
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# 7
02-08-2012, 07:40 PM
I'm not sure how this is going to play out until I can mess with it around in game. I don't really like the fact there making the T1 connie even weaker then it all ready is tho.
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is there any way to protest a change being made by cryptic that has NOT been tested but will casue even more havic and mayhem in pvp without even considering the implications.

why was this even considered and passed without at least giving us the illusion we might have a say in changing their minds about it?

there are simply too many consoles out there that can be combined in unforseen ways that lead to unforseen advtanages.

best example- theta vents and acc. assimilators.
ams on federation escorts with shockwave torps is another bad idea.

why are you doing this? can we the community get a logical reason for this?
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# 9
02-08-2012, 07:51 PM
I think the Klingon combos are a lot more deadly. The Fed consoles are very situational. The Photonic Displacer should be the most interesting one.

I am curious if this will affect the quad cannons or if they'll be the odd one out as the one C-Store ship item still locked to a class. They might become worthwhile on an offensive science ship with enough turnrate to take advantage of them. (Which I think would be fair. As-is, most escorts have better options.)

The Transwarp Computer from the T3 Excelsior might be the best use an Escort could get out of a Science slot with its +7.6 efficiency to all systems.
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# 10
02-08-2012, 07:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leviathan99
I think the Klingon combos are a lot more deadly. The Fed consoles are very situational. The Photonic Displacer should be the most interesting one.

I am curious if this will affect the quad cannons or if they'll be the odd one out as the one C-Store ship item still locked to a class. They might become worthwhile on an offensive science ship with enough turnrate to take advantage of them. (Which I think would be fair. As-is, most escorts have better options.)

The Transwarp Computer from the T3 Excelsior might be the best use an Escort could get out of a Science slot with its +7.6 efficiency to all systems.
I think an ams'ing escort is way worse.
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