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# 41
04-10-2012, 02:54 PM
This added capability will come as free update to those who have the dreadnought already or paid one?
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# 42
04-10-2012, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by discovery7810
This added capability will come as free update to those who have the dreadnought already? Or paid upgrade?
Please people... please. Read the whole post before asking an already answered question. The answer to your question is 1 post before yours. It even has shiny colors:

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Originally Posted by Aries2507 View Post
ok after a LONG look on pretty much all the dready threads including those answered by the dev team we KNOW the following:

Confirmed by various members of staff in these forums over the past month:

#1. The SAUCER SECTION WILL RETAIN THE LANCE and will have a "shotgun" style 45 degree blast rather than the "lance" blast when separated at a reduced DPS to show it is being powered by the saucers impulse engine reactors rather than the warp core.

#2. The star drive section will handle much more like a heavy or fleet escort while retaining its cannons in that form, the saucer will function with the same AI and weapons (with the addition of the "shotgun" lance) layout as presently used by the MVAM sections and Galaxy-R Saucer.

#3. The saucer when separated will continue to use universal console items such as "antimatter spread" in the same way as the Galaxy R saucer when available.

So here is a list of the known FACTS in the shiny yellow for better visibility. As stated byAries2507, these have been confirmed by the devs.

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Originally Posted by Aries2507 View Post
that's all we got, nothing more nothing less, this is ALL the information presently confirmed...

...However...

Rumour mill (utterly unconfirmed):

#1. you can choose to command the saucer rather than the stardrive section as per the MVAM system

#2. you can direct attacks of the saucer via a command prompt eg: have it target something while you attack something else.

#3. Should one section be destroyed you can fly the other.

#4. you loose your cannons to the saucer when you split leaving you only with standard phasers on the stardrive section. (utterly stupid and pretty much confirmed as bull)

#5. upon separation your crew complement is split between the two sections lowering hull repair rate etc.

and the big one

#6. You will have to buy the Galaxy R in order to get its separation console in order to separate the Galaxy X dreadnought. No Galaxy X specific console will be sold or made available but once active the separation console will function on ALL galaxy variants.



well there you go, we ARE getting separation its just a matter of when.
And here are the rumors of the mill, listed in Green/Lime color, whatever you prefeer to call it.

So let's see that last rumor, that even has a notation by the author of the post that contains your answer as being THE BIG rumor:

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Originally Posted by Aries2507 View Post
#6. You will have to buy the Galaxy R in order to get its separation console in order to separate the Galaxy X dreadnought. No Galaxy X specific console will be sold or made available but once active the separation console will function on ALL galaxy variants.
So, as Aries2507 himself states, that is a rumor, so it is neither denied, nor is it confirmed. We don't know yet if we will have to pay or not.

I hope this answers your question

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P.S. Aries2507 nice list, thanks for the effort of getting all this info from various threads to a single post
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# 43
04-10-2012, 03:13 PM
Ooops sorry I didn't read the rumor part as I thought they were just rumors.
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# 44
04-10-2012, 03:20 PM
They are just rumors, and that is why if you read them you wouldn't be asking if we'll have to pay for that ability or not, since you would know all we have are rumors and there is no answer to your question... yet
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# 45
04-10-2012, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CPT.Tomislav View Post
They are just rumors, and that is why if you read them you wouldn't be asking if we'll have to pay for that ability or not, since you would know all we have are rumors and there is no answer to your question... yet
That's the answer but most likely they won't give saucer sep as free gift and make Galaxy retrofit obsolete so the rumor kind of made sense. I'd rather have free improvement over the existing dreadnought than a 1600 cpoints worth of another console. The dreadnought only has 9 consoles as it is not 10 as with the Odyssey.
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# 46
04-10-2012, 03:25 PM
You never know. And as for galaxy retrofit... it's kinda supposed to not be as good as GalX, after all, the GalX is an upgraded version of that, built for combat

+ owners payed a LOT for that ship
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# 47
04-10-2012, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CPT.Tomislav View Post
You never know. And as for galaxy retrofit... it's kinda supposed to not be as good as GalX, after all, the GalX is an upgraded version of that, built for combat
I'd rather not expecting much. But one thing i feel Galaxy-X is rather underwhelming for a VA ship compared to others. Atm it is imo quite on par with Galaxy retrofit for a 2000 c points worth she's more like 1600 c points worth and the Galaxy retrofit maybe worth 1600 cpoints or a tiny bit less like 1500.


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Originally Posted by CPT.Tomislav View Post
+ owners payed a LOT for that ship
You can also say the same to Galaxy retrofit

The thing is if they add free improvement to Galaxy-X they may need to make Galaxy retrofit a bit more appealing than it is now. Frankly all that is stated is clearly too much an improvement for a free upgrade. Just too much. They certainly would want money for this.

On the contrary if they make like the rumor suggested they need at least add another console slot for the Galaxy dreadnought hence making the free improvement an additional console slot.

Otherwise putting the cloak and the saucer sep console on a 9 console ship may not be that wise an offers little incentive to buy the galaxy retrofit to get the saucer sep console.

I think the rumor may be true. It would give players incentive to buy both ships hence giving Cryptic more money. but for 2000+1600=3600 worth of ship I'd rather buy the complete Odyssey for additional 400c-point more unless they give the Galaxy-X another console slot. Thus still giving the Odyssey with the additional passive set bonus.

Personally if they make the rumor true and doesn't give an extra console slot to the dreadnought I won't be buying the Gal-retrofit because the slots are tight. But even if they add another console slot to the dreadnought I won't still buying the Glax-retrofit because I prefer to just use the extra console anyway rather than to spend 1600 cpoints for a mere console ability. However if they add an extra console to the dreadnought and then give the saucer sep and cloak console a passive set bonus I may buy the Gal-retrofit for the passive set bonus and the saucer sep ability. But this is unlikely.

If they give free upgrade altogether this will be the wonderland(hence I'm saying it's unlikely)
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# 48
04-11-2012, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CPT.Tomislav View Post
You never know. And as for galaxy retrofit... it's kinda supposed to not be as good as GalX, after all, the GalX is an upgraded version of that, built for combat

+ owners payed a LOT for that ship
The Gal-R is a VA ship, just as the Gal-X is a VA ship. VA ships *should* be roughly equal to each other, or they shouldn't be VA ships. The Gal-R as it stands certainly isn't worthy of being a VA ship. It needs some kind of boost.
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# 49
04-11-2012, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Destinii
The Gal-R is a VA ship, just as the Gal-X is a VA ship. VA ships *should* be roughly equal to each other, or they shouldn't be VA ships. The Gal-R as it stands certainly isn't worthy of being a VA ship. It needs some kind of boost.
Or it should be made a RA ship. It is an old ship...
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# 50
04-11-2012, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CPT.Tomislav View Post
Or it should be made a RA ship. It is an old ship...
But then you run into the problem of downgrading something that people've already spent money on in a pretty fundamental way.
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