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Originally Posted by BlackV7
I'll be more concern about getting the Romulan faction going as a playable race, than those minor races. I want my ROMMIE
I am going to state this. I am not trying to make anyone mad but I do not see the Romulans becomming a playable race before Cardassian/Jem'hadar.

The reason being if they were the next to come out why would the studio be focusing on giving us Cardassian and Jem'Hadar ships. I know some will say it becasue of the feature episode. But I disagree.

The Romulans are still too fractured after the Hobus Star went super nova. I mean, let see here the dominion consisted of what races, Changelings, Vorta, Jem'Hadar, Cardassians, and the Breen. Wow two feature episode series with the domion forces in it. I know the Breen are not in the Dominion anymore, but hey the Romulan FE was mostly focused on Remans. I could see them becomming a playable race before the Romulans. Also if ya look at the holo ships hmmm alot of Jem'hadar and Cardassian ships. But awe no Romulan.

The romulan government was just found out to be conspiring with the Iconians over a year ago, I saw not one romulan ship help you in any of those battle in that FE.

Don't get me wrong I love the Romulans, but they are going to take a bit to get a a story line in order for them, along with the hirogen.

Ya I am think season six will open up with the Cardassians and Jem'Hadar being a playable species.
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# 2
02-16-2012, 02:14 AM
Oh sorry three FE I forgot we got to go inside a cardassian ship and bridge in The Devidian Series of Bam a butt load of Cardassian stuff already preped and in game data. Stations, worlds ships weapons, I mean come on, and the Jem'Hadar ships got a new look.........
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# 3
02-16-2012, 02:21 AM
I agree with you, i also think it will be the Dominion or the Cardassians next, fingers crosseds its the Dominion.
Although having said all that, i'd eventually like to see the Breen playable, but i suppose we'll have to wait and see.
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# 4
02-16-2012, 02:24 AM
I would not mind to see playable Cardassians.

We also have one or two Cardassian RP fleets currently active, and they would be very happy with such.
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# 5
02-16-2012, 02:59 AM
I see your point, but I'm hoping that the relative silence surrounding the Romulans (fitting for my people ) has to do with the faction being worked on, if only on paper.

Also, while I'm nearly as eager to have a Cardassian faction (my second favourite Trek race) as I am a Romulan one, I just don't see it happening. Why? Backlash. Now, have Cryptic and (especially) PWE addressed player backlash to any measurable degree? Not really. However, things like the lock boxes and Galor spam are more marketing/financial decisions than developer ones. They're designed solely to take our money and were inevitable given PWE's track record and the f2p model. Both the players and the devs could have fought it kicking and screaming, and it still would have happened. The third faction debate, on the other hand, is (mostly) a content/developer issue. Imagine the **** storm that would be kicked up if the third core species of Trek was passed over in favour of what started as a very minor race until DS9. The forums would be flooded with even more "Romulans Now!" type threads; there may even be petitions. Would it ultimately do them any good? Again, probably not... but it might cause enough of a PR issue (nevermind a player hemorrhaging issue) that it may give them pause.

As far as story content goes for the Romulans, I have to disagree. Would it be as easy as the Feds and Klinks? No.... but it wouldn't be terribly difficult either. There was already a "choose your path" option in the Romulan Mystery episodes. This would merely have to be expanded upon a bit more. Do you support Sela, the remnants of the Tal Shiar, or perhaps a Reunification splinter faction? There are many ways for a Romulan storyline to play out.
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# 6
02-16-2012, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by benportmann


I am going to state this. I am not trying to make anyone mad but I do not see the Romulans becomming a playable race before Cardassian/Jem'hadar.
GRRRRRR !!!! (Growls ferciously)

I beg to differ my good man, for the mere fact that the current focus on the Cardassian/Jem Hedar is due to the new FE that has debuted on 02/11/2012 - The first true new FE since our last FE (What a drought)

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The reason being if they were the next to come out why would the studio be focusing on giving us Cardassian and Jem'Hadar ships. I know some will say it becasue of the feature episode. But I disagree.
No, seriously, it is because of the new featured episode. All kidding aside, we haven't had a new FE in a long, long, long time. The opportunity to celebrate and profit it from this FE cannot be passed up. Thats why the Lock Box promotions are flying around in spades.

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The Romulans are still too fractured after the Hobus Star went super nova. I mean...
Tsk, tsk, tsk, monsieur Kapitan, just because the Romulans are in a midst of a civil war, does not mean that their political body is in limbo. On the contrary, their political status makes for some intriguing story arcs and power play drama. Remember, we Rommies excel in the art of back stabbing, cloak and dagger, and assassination.


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let see here the dominion consisted of what races, Changelings, Vorta, Jem'Hadar, Cardassians, and the Breen.
I would eliminate the Cardassian and Breen from the list, since that former alliance was formerly dissolved. What you have now from the Cardassians are renegade True Way splinter groups who are akin to mere terrorist. The Breen on the otherhand is under the peace accord agreements written after the Dominion forces surrendered. Vorta's are a minor part of the Dominion and are mere overseers of the Jem Hedar, and of course Changelings are their headmasters.

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Originally Posted by benportmann
Wow two feature episode series with the domion forces in it.
Correction, there is only one FE currently about the Dominion. There are no FE that deals with the Cardassian per say - only involves the terrorist organization called the True Way.

There is another FE involving the Breen, whom are no longer part of the Dominion and are under the peace accords signed during the surrender of the Dominion forces at DS9.

Also it is currently unknown if the 2800 is operating on their own accord and lead by a renegade changeling - this is due to the fact that changelings can be an honorable people. Odo has shown the changelings at the Great Lake that not all solids are evil and hell bent on destruction.

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Originally Posted by benportmann
I know the Breen are not in the Dominion anymore,
You have just confirmed what I have stated on this post.

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Originally Posted by benportmann
but hey the Romulan FE was mostly focused on Remans. I could see them becomming a playable race before the Romulans. Also if ya look at the holo ships hmmm alot of Jem'hadar and Cardassian ships. But awe no Romulan.
Thats an even bigger sign that a playable Cardassian / Dominion race will not be implemented - solely because these items are offered. No Holo emitters of Klingon vessels or Fed vessels?So that point falls short.

The Romulan FE was really a Reman FE involving the Romulans. It explores the civil war between the Remans and the Romulans, and the Tal Shiar agenda.

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Originally Posted by benportmann
The Romulan government was just found out to be conspiring with the Iconians over a year ago, I saw not one Romulan ship help you in any of those battle in that FE.
This operation involving the Iconians were under the auspices of the Tal Shiar - A secretive gestapo type organization with its own agenda. It may be that the main Romulan politcal organization were not aware of Empress Sela true intent, besides she was a dictator.

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Originally Posted by benportmann
Don't get me wrong I love the Romulans, but they are going to take a bit to get a a story line in order for them, along with the Hirogen.
Again I beg to differ, the current state of the Romulan Star Empire opens it up for one of the most intriguing story lines out of all the current factions.

A) Fed - pretty much straight forward - diplomacy, exploration, policing troubled sector space

B) Klingon (least how CRYPTIC protrays them ) - War, more War, more glorious war

C) Romulans - ah intriguing indeed - Leadership assassinations, cloak and dagger missions, infiltrations, disrupting world governments, Civil War, secretive weapons project type story arc, the return of the Iconian story arc, diplomacy, exploration, Klingon war and tons tons more

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Originally Posted by benportmann
Ya I am think season six will open up with the Cardassians and Jem'Hadar being a playable species.
I hope not
The Rommies are part of the original Trinity of Star Trek and deserve their place of respect alongside the Feds and Klinks.
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# 7
02-16-2012, 04:29 AM
They have pretty much said romulans will be next. there was even a poll and romulans were the runaway leader for players choice of the next faction.

I do love the cardassians and the dominion but the romulans are going to be next.
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# 8
02-16-2012, 05:11 AM
Cardies, no.
Rommies, yes.
But of course either is a very long ways away, considering the number of missions the KDF need to bring them up to parity.

besides, Jem'hadar are designed drug addicts with no real self initiative. Once a Jem'hadar developed a sense of self worth, they are executed by their pseudo-religous overlords, and replaced.

Would it really be fun to play a new Changling/Founder just to have your jem'hadar Boffs all commit mass suicide everytime you get wacked because they "failed their Founder"?

Vorta, were nothing but "middle management" that thought WAy too highly of themselves. Do you really wanna play the Assistant Manager at a fast food place? no
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# 9
02-16-2012, 05:14 AM
I'd rather have neither of them and just see both races become playable for Fed/Klink players.
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# 10
02-16-2012, 05:17 AM
Ok I am sorry to say but all of your points are moot.

As for you black and the comment of there being no holo emitters for fed or klingon why make a holo emitter for a playable ship, really.

And wow if your that hard core Rommie as your say then please feel free to fork out the money needed to make ship interior and ships and missions for them.

Also I did state that yes it is tied to the FE but you ignored when I said that it was just a excuse to test out the shups that will becoming out. On alot of sites it states that even when the poll came out yes there was over whelming request for Romulans, but cryptic has not released anything new in over 11 months regaurding the Romulan player race.

I am just saying I believe it will be easier right now in integrate the cardassian/dominion into game with not much change needed a few mission changed but no real development needed as most interiors for stations bases and building and ship interior plus bridges are already made.

And for your trifecta, I am sorry but an entire 7 seasons of DS9 had cardassians and four of which have the dominion, while the romulans state and ploted and hid most of there entire existence in sto ploting and waiting.

The Romulans are not just facigna civil war, after nemsis there was such a power gap that the empire fell apart. Look at it like this Romulans are the roman empire they feel and now are more than likely going to be either inducted into the federation or conquered by the klingons.

I just am stating that it would be more cost productive for the devs to get the cardassians up and running.
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