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# 21
02-16-2012, 05:13 PM
OP...you don't know about the poll do you?

Romulan was chosen to be next a long time ago.
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# 22
02-16-2012, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenor-Nyiad View Post
OP...you don't know about the poll do you?

Romulan was chosen to be next a long time ago.
The Ambassador-class was chose in a *very* close second with the Nebula. We still haven't see that ship.
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# 23
02-16-2012, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Xenor-Nyiad View Post
OP...you don't know about the poll do you?

Romulan was chosen to be next a long time ago.
I do know of the poll done in about the sixth month of the game being online. I knwo what the punlic wants but think of practicality,
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# 24
02-16-2012, 10:24 PM
I made some excellent points and as far people wanting the Romulan Faction next, they win in spades (See the Poll)

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As for you black and the comment of there being no holo emitters for fed or klingon why make a holo emitter for a playable ship, really.
Seriously now? I mean they already have emitters for the Galor and BUG - both ship obtainable in game via ECs, if you have enough of it. Also folks who never bought certain Klingon or Federation vessels from the CStore should get at least a chance at a holo emitter of those particular vessels, However; the emitters are besides the point, for the simple fact that they are NOT an indicator of what faction is coming out next.

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And wow if your that hard core Rommie as your say then please feel free to fork out the money needed to make ship interior and ships and missions for them.
LOL, your deductive reasoning is severely flawed. I mean seriously, its CRYPTIC's job to make the game better, so please don't give them any excuse to sit on their arse's and just milk profit, while giving us minimum content. Rehashing existing interior, designs, and missions can only take you so far.

A) If they can make Galor and BUG Bridge - THEY CAN make Romulan Bridges

B) The animation and looks for Cardy, Vorta, Changlings, Breen, Jem Hedar are in the game - So are the animation of Remans and Romulans

C) If they lack the imagination and creativity to make a deep Romulan story arc (Including LORE) - then what makes you think that they can make an awesome Cardassian / Dominion story arc as a faction. This is one of the biggest flaws that CRYPTIC shows, they poop all over lore and many of their missions & stories simply suck, while at time make no sense

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Originally Posted by benportmann
Also I did state that yes it is tied to the FE but you ignored when I said that it was just a excuse to test out the shups that will becoming out. On alot of sites it states that even when the poll came out yes there was over whelming request for Romulans, but cryptic has not released anything new in over 11 months regaurding the Romulan player race.
Testing out ships that will becoming out? Where & when? You mean the lock boxes?

Just because we had 11 months of silence regarding the Romulans, does not necessarily mean they are pushed to the side as a possible faction. Again, your deductive reasoning is severely flawed here my friend. You're making assumptions based on CRYPTIC's past & current financial state.

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Originally Posted by benportmann
I am just saying I believe it will be easier right now in integrate the cardassian/dominion into game with not much change needed a few mission changed but no real development needed as most interiors for stations bases and building and ship interior plus bridges are already made.
So are the interiors, models, and characterization of the Remans and Romulans - again the apparent flaws behind your logic shows in spades (No offense). Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE fan of DS9 - and I know most folks will hate me for saying this - but I think DS9 was the best series out of all the newest incarnation of Star Trek, with the worst being Voyager and Enterprise. However; thats just my opinion - so yes you're looking at the #1 fan of all thats DS9 related.

With that being said, I'm equally a huge fan of TOS and the trinity that was created from that show - that being the Federation, Klingons, and our beloved Romulans. To skip out on one of the three major galactic powers in favor for a recent incarnation baby race such as the Cardassians and Jem Hedar is blasphemy :p

But I give you credit for at least thinking outside the box.

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And for your trifecta, I am sorry but an entire 7 seasons of DS9 had cardassians and four of which have the dominion, while the romulans state and ploted and hid most of there entire existence in sto ploting and waiting.
Uhm, really? Come on my friend - DS9 is ABOUT the Cardassian relation with the Bajorans, and their political games with the Federation. Just because the Romulans had a small role in the TV series does not make them less important than the races you mentioned. Heck the Romulans been around longer than the Cardassians, Jem Hedar, and the Bajorans (Talking TV series here).

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The Romulans are not just facigna civil war, after nemsis there was such a power gap that the empire fell apart. Look at it like this Romulans are the roman empire they feel and now are more than likely going to be either inducted into the federation or conquered by the klingons.
My goodness man, have you not read or seen the path to 2409 STO timeline? The Romulans made a key offensive against the Klingons, stopping them on their tracks. If the Romulans were that powerless they would have surrendered to the Klingons a long time ago.

There is nothing more dangerous than a wounded animal, with that being said, the Romulans in their current state of affairs, are far more dangerous than the Klingon Empire's war campaign. If the Romulan senate makes an agreement with their Reman brothers, watch out, the Federation can be sandwiched between two war fronts.

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Originally Posted by benportmann
I just am stating that it would be more cost productive for the devs to get the cardassians up and running.
We don't know that for sure? Since both the Cardassian / Dominion and Romulan / Reman models are already in place - we can only ascertain that it will still take as much work to construct them as a faction. You still have to make the ranking system, the missions from scratch, the CStore version of ship designs which include:

A) Cruisers
B) Escorts
C) Science vessel

Uniforms viable for players - to make them customizable

You're also speaking of promos etc...
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# 25
02-16-2012, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Archanubis
The Ambassador-class was chose in a *very* close second with the Nebula. We still haven't see that ship.
Archanubis, my chocolate dragon friend

I too await the arrival of the Ambassador Class, unfortunately; it was the second runner up and the Nebula was chosen instead. Hopefully they'll release it soon.

To be honest, its highly unlikely that CRYPTIC will be working on a third faction anytime soon. The KDF needs some serious restructuring as a viable Faction before they even contemplate on making a Rommie or Cardy Faction.
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# 26
02-16-2012, 11:00 PM
If they include the Breen and Dominion along with the Cardassians, then them. Seeing as the Galor and Jem'Hadar ship were part of Mann Co. Supply Crates people have spent fortunes gambling on, that's never going to happen.

There'd be too many made-up non-canon ships required to fill out the Romulan ship roster, even though I think they're the coolest race besides Klingons in Trek.

Unless someone wants to correct me. How many different Romulan ship classes have made it on screen? Maybe its not much less than the Klingon ships that have made it to screen. Hmm...
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# 27
02-17-2012, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackV7
I too await the arrival of the Ambassador Class, unfortunately; it was the second runner up and the Nebula was chosen instead. Hopefully they'll release it soon.
Really, the only regularly, clearly seen ships in Star Trek that are not yet in game are the Ambassador and the Constellation. I think more people are more interested in the Ambassador than they are the Constellation.


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Originally Posted by Grafico
If they include the Breen and Dominion along with the Cardassians, then them.
As others have said, the Breen are basically operating their own agenda at present. So no, they probably wouldn't feature as playable in a Cardassian/Dominion faction.

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There'd be too many made-up non-canon ships required to fill out the Romulan ship roster, even though I think they're the coolest race besides Klingons in Trek.
Hasn't hurt the Klingons; and it's not like the Feds don't have a bunch of made up, "non-canon" ships in the game.

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Unless someone wants to correct me. How many different Romulan ship classes have made it on screen? Maybe its not much less than the Klingon ships that have made it to screen. Hmm...
Klingons:
Bird-of-Prey (22nd Century)
Bird-of-Prey (23rd/24th Century) - at least two clases: B'Rel and K'Vort
Somraw-type Raptor
D-5 Battle Cruiser
D-7 Battle Cruiser
K't'inga-class Battle Cruiser
Vor'cha-class attack cruiser
Negh'var-class warship

Romulans:
Drone ship
Bird-of-Prey (22nd Century)
Bird-of-Prey (23rd Century)
D-7 Battle Cruiser - actually a Klingon ship, but worth mentioning.
D'deridex-class warbird - the one seen the most.
Scout Ship
Science Vessel
Valdore-type warbird - called a Mogai in game, and classified as an escort. Be interesting to see if they reclassify that once they introduce more ships.
Scimitar - referred to as a "Reman warbird" in the article, but considering the Romulans have appropriated it in game...

About even, really. A couple of dubious ones in the Romulan list, but even without...
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# 28
02-17-2012, 05:10 PM
The next faction is still a very long way off, but it will be the Romulans. Not for any practical reasons, but simply that Klingons and Romulans are pop culture references. They were both in TOS. They are both recognizable to some extend by non Trek fans. While Cardassians racked up much more screentime in total than the Romulans, sure, most of that was limited to DS9, a series some (utterly deranged excuses for) Trek fans don't even like. They're just not as iconic.

And iconic matters.

We had to ***** and moan for a long time to get the (STO) original earth spacedock replaced with the one we have now, but now that its there, Cryptic doesn't miss a whole lot of opportunities to paste it into promotional images. So basically, it's going to be a banner that shows a Klingon, a Human and a Romulan, versus a banner that shows a Klingon, a Human and a Cardassian.

Get a board room and ten CBS executives. 9 out of 10 will pick the one with the Romulan.

We don't want to know what number 10 is doing.
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# 29
02-17-2012, 05:14 PM
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We don't want to know what number 10 is doing.
Advocating the Borg as a faction. :p

In all seriousness, I really don't want to see either the Borg or the Undine as playable factions. Just doesn't seem to be much story with either to be worth it.
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# 30
02-17-2012, 05:23 PM
The next playable race will be ponies.
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