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# 1 STF leaver penalty
02-23-2012, 07:19 AM
Needs to be modified a little bit. I just had to take the leaver penalty because I got stuck in an STF full of amateurs that decided they were going to be cowboys go off solo on things. I and another player both suggested keeping team together and then things just turned into an insulting match. I have no problem staying in an STF with rookie players because they will not get any better unless the veterans help them learn. But I should not have to listen to insults and bickering and then be penalized with a leaver penalty for getting away from the children. Don't know how this can be better implemented but it needs looked at.
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# 2
02-23-2012, 07:25 AM
Use /ignore for people who insult you over chat. Changing the leaver penalty will not stop them from insulting people, nor will it block their chat when they do hurl insults.
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# 3
02-23-2012, 07:25 AM
The game can't tell why you left, at least not in any way that isn't open to abuse. Leaving because your angry looks just like leaving because your in a group that has no chance to finish, or leaving because you just think it's funny to ditch the team outside the last room.
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# 4
02-23-2012, 10:25 AM
I thought the penalty was foolish from start... poor implementation for virtual moderation...
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# 5
02-23-2012, 11:02 AM
I think they should remove the penalty if two or more people leave the mission. The penalty is still needed to stop people from quitting missions until they get a team full of escorts.
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# 6
02-23-2012, 11:07 AM
If cryptic got finally their act together and someone leaving would instantly be replaced by another player the whole leaver penalty would be unnecessary.
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# 7
02-23-2012, 11:24 AM
Changing the leaving penality will not prevent people from leaving. Lets face it, some groups are so bad that it tries your patience to the maximum that you have no choice but to leave. Especially if you got people who are goofing off or people not listening to a veteran's instructions.

And it could have a negative impact on those who have to leave for legitimate reasons like emergencies or internet disconnection. Wouldn't be fair if they got a harsh punishment for something beyond their control, right?
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# 8
02-23-2012, 11:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shonto
I think they should remove the penalty if two or more people leave the mission. The penalty is still needed to stop people from quitting missions until they get a team full of escorts.
You dont get a penalty if two people have left the mission, I know because one day it was simple horrible with disconnects and de-grouping and 2-3 we had to leave because that mission became impossible to complete.
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# 9
02-23-2012, 12:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by f2pdrakron
You dont get a penalty if two people have left the mission, I know because one day it was simple horrible with disconnects and de-grouping and 2-3 we had to leave because that mission became impossible to complete.
Last night in one of my infested runs I was the only one left after everyone quit do to multiple nerd rages about another player going off on his own, the exit message still told me I was going to get a penalty so I just logged off.

This is the only time this has ever happened after a few hundred runs but it was still frustrating. When I logged back on after about 20 minutes, I had no penalty but I also did not have a cool down, so maybe you are right.
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# 10
02-23-2012, 12:30 PM
I have been the last person standing on a map, and still got the leaver penalty. That is just wrong.
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