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At the moment I have a lv 22 tact who uses escorts, however I have been also leveling an engie who uses cruiser, since it seems like it might fit my rush in and open fire play style better. But reading the forums, it seems as though cruisers really do not serve much of a use at the moment, as they still die quickly, and will not do much damage. Are these statements true, or is it just people being bad?
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# 2
02-19-2012, 10:07 PM
hahah bad players man
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# 3
02-19-2012, 10:08 PM
Cruisers, when set up right, can be almost unkillable. They can take a pounding (quiet in the back row, no snickering), you just have to sacrifice dps to an extent. it's a balancing act at times.
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# 4
02-20-2012, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Taneth
At the moment I have a lv 22 tact who uses escorts, however I have been also leveling an engie who uses cruiser, since it seems like it might fit my rush in and open fire play style better. But reading the forums, it seems as though cruisers really do not serve much of a use at the moment, as they still die quickly, and will not do much damage. Are these statements true, or is it just people being bad?
My advice is do not worry about it and go with the ship type you find the most enjoyable. Fun and enjoyment is the point of playing after all.

I have seen people play very well in cruisers. And I've seen people do very poorly despite the fact they were in escorts. A lot of it comes down to your skill build, your bo builds, and just as importantly, how comfortable you are with the play style. Know your ship, know your powers, and know your weaknesses and you can plan around them.

All the PvE content in this game is doable in any ship type. That includes STFs and Elite STFS. Does having an escort along help? Of course, but then having variety of ship types usually does.

I do not PvP so I will not try to speak for that side of things.

I also noticed that 'go escort' is the fad now. Some people seem to forget that not everyone enjoys the escort playstyle. There is absolutely no point playing a ship type you are not interested in. Yes the theoretical maximum damage would be higher, but you may end up losing that extra damage to sloppier play because you don't enjoy the ship your in (or don't know it as well).

If you check these forums long enough, you will find the 'useless' ship fluctuates. I remember awhile ago I would see posts on the uselessness of science ships.
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# 5
02-20-2012, 10:35 AM
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Cruisers, when set up right, can be almost unkillable. They can take a pounding (quiet in the back row, no snickering), you just have to sacrifice dps to an extent. it's a balancing act at times.
I like my Cruiser, especially when fighting Borg in Kerrat and being jumped by a couple of Klingon BoPs. Had fun last night. Sometimes I died, but most often after killing one of them the other battled cloaked and ran away. The outcome really depended on how many Borg were pounding on me when they decloaked and attacked. They never killed me unless a cube, couple of spheres, and some probes were attacking me. Other than that, they pretty much died or ended up running away. Was a nice change of pace to not bother with or care about scoring the highest for the purple loot.
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# 6
02-20-2012, 10:42 AM
Do you like watching paint dry? You like watching grass grow?

Cruise on in a cruiser homey!
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# 7
02-20-2012, 10:51 AM
Escorts are sprinters, cruisers are marathon runners. Cruisers excel at tanking, and in the right hands with the right loadout are, as said above, nigh unkillable. A friend of mine has a Negh'Var that regularly takes on Borg cubes without getting a scratch, and multiple spheres with hardly any effort. You won't kill things in a cruiser as fast as an escort will, and you don't have their maneuverability, but you'll be the last one standing thanks to those shields, heavy hull armor, and engineering BOff skills.

Personally I really like all ship categories, but cruisers are just awesome to watch work. There's not much that beats watching a high-end cruiser unleashing a full Fire-at-Will broadside of six phasers at an approaching fleet of probes. I love running my Odyssey and plan on keeping my Bortas around despite having a Varanus and Vo'Quv on the same character, just for some variety.
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# 8
02-20-2012, 10:59 AM
If you read the forums you'll see some people say escorts are useless. Then others say cruisers are useless or science ships are useless.

Since we're not all flying around in Runabouts, I guess all of the other ships in the game must have some use.
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# 9
02-20-2012, 11:20 AM
Cruisers last much longer than escorts. I fly Galor as TAC and can even outlast some Science Captains in STF. Not meaning of course that they are so great, must be wrong setup science vessels if I can outlast it in my Galor as a tac officer. but then again STFs have one shots. Still I've been playing almost everything on Advanced Difficulty for about 2 months now and only had a problem killing Dreadnought in 2800 part 1 had to escape a few times due its hard impact close to one-shot torpedo volleys when they really hit you all. Other than that I think its all about how you fly, how you setu and what preferences are. If you want to dish the most DPS - be ready to blow up often.

As a TAC on Galor its nice to tank with shields and dish out some DPS with BAFM II and III. Rapid Fire II and III maybe be better for direct damage but I would not last in my fleet escort as long as I can last in Galor. Or any other similar class cruiser for that effect. Galor just has a good turn rate thats why I like it the most. I love the Dreadnaught as well but it turns like a big fat bucket.

Borg Spheres in Elite STF would rip me apart if I run DPS spec in fleet escort even though I can dish some crazy amount of dmg. Flying escort with good turn rate however proves to be more viable in STF than blowing up every time Borg Sphere is after you.

Still its more about preference. I switch tactics from time to time to not get bored too much with tanking, switch to DPS. But then again especialy with bosses no matter what you flying in Elite STF while killing a boss you will die as many times as the other guy because of the one-shots. That is of course if you not gonna hide and be scared to damage the boss and not attract attention to yourself, which in STF is quite cowardly considering that everyone else is dying.
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# 10
02-20-2012, 03:06 PM
Since STFs have timelimits and tons of borg hitpoints to bring down escorts are the best choice. This applies to both normal and elite ones. Also on normal you won't miss the additional survivability of cruisers, on elite the biggest thread are oneshots which will kill any ship, again not much benefit in being tough but -compared to good escorts- toothless. Therefore are escorts the best choice for STFs. However this doesn't mean that cruisers are useless. If flown right they will still be an asset for their team.

Everywhere else -PvP and PvE- cruisers have their niche like every other ship too. Here it's more about what playstyle you like: A fast and maneuverable damage dealer? Escort. Slow but tough? Cruiser. Flexible support? Science.
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