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# 21
02-25-2012, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sophlogimo
American Starfleet personnel:
  • Archer
  • Tucker
  • Kirk
  • McCoy
  • Janice Rand
  • Riker
  • Crusher sen.
  • Crusher jun.
  • LaForge
  • Sisko
  • Bashir
  • Janeway
  • Kim (yes, Harry was obviously an American)
  • Paris
LaForge was born in the African Confederation.

Bashir is middle eastern yet seems to have a fond love of British culture so who knows where he was born.

kim was meant to be asian although even Garrat never knew what nationality he was meant to be playing.

Crusher was born on the moon but has roots from Scotland.

im not even sure if sisko's birth place was ever 100% confirmed although his father lives in San Francisco so lets just assume he is american.
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# 22
02-25-2012, 02:41 AM
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LaForge was born in the African Confederation.
Okay, we're down to 55% Americans then.

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Bashir is middle eastern yet seems to have a fond love of British culture so who knows where he was born.
No, he is not middle eastern. Hint: His first name is "Julian". His father's first name was "Richard".

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kim was meant to be asian although even Garrat never knew what nationality he was meant to be playing.
Harry. With his parents being called John and Mary. That's not very Asian.

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Crusher was born on the moon but has roots from Scotland.
Okay, 50% Americans then. The percentage of Anglophones remains the same, which is... astonishing.
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# 23
02-25-2012, 02:54 AM
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No, he is not middle eastern. Hint: His first name is "Julian". His father's first name was "Richard".
let me clarify, the actor alexander siddig is middle eastern, so by the colour of his skin there is some middle eastern in julian as well.

bashir is an arabic name. His mother is called Amsha which does not sound very american either. Julian and richard may not be but thats the whole 24th century, all one happy family thing. there is enough uncertainty in his make up to not be able to call him american.


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Harry. With his parents being called John and Mary. That's not very Asian.
John and mary are not even american names unless america was around the time of the bible was being written. again in the 24th century there is a lot of mix and matching of all being one happy united earth. to me thats not enough to nail him down as american.
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# 24
02-25-2012, 03:01 AM
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Well, in the Star Trek future, the Americans obviosuly won WW3 (if you can win a nuclear war at all), and most of China and India and Europe became rather irrelevant. Hence the domination of the English language, and hence the obvious predominance of Americans among human Starfleet officers.
Or it could simply be, you know, because it's an American show and all?
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# 25
02-25-2012, 06:54 AM
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let me clarify, the actor alexander siddig is middle eastern, so by the colour of his skin there is some middle eastern in julian as well.

bashir is an arabic name. His mother is called Amsha which does not sound very american either. Julian and richard may not be but thats the whole 24th century, all one happy family thing. there is enough uncertainty in his make up to not be able to call him american.
IIRC, Siddig is Pakistani.

Bashir's parents were of obvious Middle Eastern decent. But they had British accents. After Bashir was genetically enhanced, they moved. Even if they spoke little English when they moved, after spending an entire life around those with a British accent, it is understandable they would all pick up on that accent.

I wouldn't call him American. But I would agree that it would appear America and it's allies won WWIII. And when you consider Britain and Australia as major American allies, then a good chunk of the victors speak English or some variety of it. All we know is WWIII happened and that it ended. We also know there was a cease-fire. But we don't know the terms of that cease-fire.

WWIII in the Star Trek universe would make a good book series.
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# 26
02-25-2012, 09:07 AM
lets not forget the beauty of the universal translator.

its possible people are speaking different languages at times but the translator is changing it. (although best not to dig to deeply into the technology or 'magic' of the translator).
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# 27
02-25-2012, 09:11 AM
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lets not forget the beauty of the universal translator.

its possible people are speaking different languages at times but the translator is changing it. (although best not to dig to deeply into the technology or 'magic' of the translator).
My favorite feature is the holographic overlay that makes their lips speak English also! :p
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# 28
02-25-2012, 09:15 AM
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Someone is ignoring forum rules...
And thus started the downfall of the French language!
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# 29
02-25-2012, 09:16 AM
Invading france is hardly WWIII material.
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# 30
02-25-2012, 09:16 AM
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My favorite feature is the holographic overlay that makes their lips speak English also! :p
like how it never translates qapla' or any klingon swear word.
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