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# 21
03-03-2012, 12:19 PM
People have to understand, VA-level ships aren't new tiers. They are merely special versions of pre-existing ships. Hence, they don't give you them for free without the Veteran reward.

Whenever a tier 6 ship comes out, you can assume it'll be like before. You'll get a discount/free tier 6.

And honestly, for all the hate people give Cryptic/PWE, they're about one of two companies I can think of, that'll let you get cash points for free. The only other is Turbine, and how "achievements" reward you with a small amount of Turbine Points so you can, in theory, buy stuff from the item shop. Sure, people will argue "Well it takes too long to get dilithium!" but, would you prefer you couldn't get C-Points with it?
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# 22
03-03-2012, 12:58 PM
I understand that ftp'rs who aren't paying to play the game are being pushed to use the c-store as at the end of the day STO is a business.

Maybe there needs to be better explanation in game as to what tiers mean and what to expect from each one.

I was just a little disappointed at not having a new "toy" to play with at VA rank to be honest.

I currently use the Star Cruiser but wish i hadn't chose it, maybe I should just shut up and cough up as they say!
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# 23
03-03-2012, 02:27 PM
A level 50 character can hit 8k dilithium cap in about an hour with dailies. That's roughly 36 CPs. If you have two characters, and two hours, that's 70 CPs a day.

And if your time is variable, maybe you play a lot on the weekend and then just log in during the week to convert dilithium.

In 2-4 weeks, you can unlock a 1200-2000 CP ship.

And, again, the ship isn't necessary at all.
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# 24
03-03-2012, 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zahinder
A level 50 character can hit 8k dilithium cap in about an hour with dailies. That's roughly 36 CPs. If you have two characters, and two hours, that's 70 CPs a day.

And if your time is variable, maybe you play a lot on the weekend and then just log in during the week to convert dilithium.

In 2-4 weeks, you can unlock a 1200-2000 CP ship.

And, again, the ship isn't necessary at all.
I have 6 characters max rank and it takes me a little less than an hour a day and onwhen I do get the limit on all my characters I get about 225cp in one day. That means I get 2000cp in 8 days. I am what cryptic fears lol I do all the grinds.

So if you do not want to grind like I do just pay up or wait untill they raise the rank cap to get new toys.
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# 25
03-03-2012, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LtSmith
That means I get 2000cp in 8 days. I am what cryptic fears lol I do all the grinds.
Not at all. Someone is still dropping the money on those C-Points.

It's awesome that you pull in that much, I haven't been able to get in the rhythm for that yet!
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# 26
03-03-2012, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytheaker
Have any Cryptic staff ever commented on this?
Yes, yes they have.
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# 27
03-04-2012, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by superchum View Post
Yes, yes they have.
Brilliant, and?
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# 28
03-04-2012, 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaytheaker
Brilliant, and?
They have to make money somehow. Or something similar.


Anyway the RA ships are just as good as the VA ships (apart from few exceptions).
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# 29
03-04-2012, 10:28 AM
The game is FREE. You've been playing the game for a month now for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. And you complain that everything isn't handed to you. How do you think Cryptic makes money to maintain the game? If no one buys Cstore ships then the servers will go down.

If that happens, you won't have any left to complain!!!
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# 30
03-04-2012, 10:43 AM
When I first started I looked at those c-point VA ships and thought I must get one or two of those "uber" ships some day. A couple of months later having saved up more than enough I realised I was quite happy flying the Sovereign, Heavy Escort and Hegh'ta BOP on my three characters so I bought doff and bank slots instead
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