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# 31
03-08-2012, 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Timelord_Victorious

As far as I know the Aux Craft will be comparable to a Saber Class escort in size and capabilities... hardly a Defiant.
Again: Don't care for the stats, I just care for the looks.

Of course I know that none of that will happen, just saying I'd love if it WOULD.
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# 32
03-08-2012, 06:39 AM
As some one has already pointed out for a special console for the sovy+1 which was either

1) FAW spread as seen in nemesis for cloaked ships.
2) Rapid Fire or Burst Fire, don't see the difference here, Quantum torpedoes
3) The Riker Manoeuvre, different version to eject warp plasma.


Which I completed agree. To make the sovereign class more special and to make it complete with the the excelsior and odyssey classes.

What about adding the Picard Manoeuvre since we don't see it on the galaxy class. Also maybe rapid fire phasers? As seen in nemesis the phaser charge and shoot a lot faster than they do in first contact?
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# 33
03-08-2012, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by RAJ_2011
As some one has already pointed out for a special console for the sovy+1 which was either

1) FAW spread as seen in nemesis for cloaked ships.
2) Rapid Fire or Burst Fire, don't see the difference here, Quantum torpedoes
3) The Riker Manoeuvre, different version to eject warp plasma.


Which I completed agree. To make the sovereign class more special and to make it complete with the the excelsior and odyssey classes.

What about adding the Picard Manoeuvre since we don't see it on the galaxy class. Also maybe rapid fire phasers? As seen in nemesis the phaser charge and shoot a lot faster than they do in first contact?
Picard maneuver was a plus one console given to a kdf ship..i know i use it alot...tis fun lol...
The fire at nothing many times would be nifty...might be usefull for bringing ol donatra out of cloak prematurely...or anyone else in a cloak in pvp..when tachyon grid isnt available..but i see this as being abused in esd ...
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# 34
03-08-2012, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Timelord_Victorious
We all know the Sovereign is overdue for a refit.
According to Geko it all comes down to which is cooler -- a Sovvy refit or a Vesta.

Cool factor being the single most important variable in the discussion, supposedly.

Neither of them, though, are as cool or as popular as the Excelsior. So that comes into play as well.
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# 35
03-08-2012, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Timelord_Victorious

Edit: BTW, I just read the CapLogan is leaving Cryptic. This means there won't be a Venturefied version most likely as the new guy probably will bring in his own style.
He build the Chaffee shuttle.
But I hope he reads the forums and finds this thread, so he will be aware of the demand for an improved version of the Sovereign class.
What? Thats awfull news!
Cryptic can't even hold its most talentet dev?

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According to Geko it all comes down to which is cooler -- a Sovvy refit or a Vesta.

Cool factor being the single most important variable in the discussion, supposedly.

Neither of them, though, are as cool or as popular as the Excelsior. So that comes into play as well.
Well... My imagination on how the Vesta should work IS, for stats, actually what the odysee became.

But well if... they could just have the Vesta and Souvereign as optional skins for the same ship.

About that popularity thing; before STO I was prety active in 2 "general" Science Fiction forums, both had an anual poll for the best looking Star Trek ship, one of them additionally for the best looking sci fi ship in general.
The Souvereign won ALL 3 of them regulary for at least 3 years, the Excelsior was never even in the top 3. So wouldnt say its more popular.... I wouldnt even say the Excelsior is an especially popular ship in the first place...
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# 36
03-08-2012, 07:35 AM
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So wouldnt say its more popular.... I wouldnt even say the Excelsior is an especially popular ship in the first place...
I wouldn't say that either. The Sovereign is probably my second favorite trek ship of all-time (the TOS Connie being my favorite, due to my own age and growing up watching TOS reruns, it's hard to budge that much nostalgia).

But I've long thought the Excelsior was a dev-biased "teacher's pet" type ship. And recent Geko comments support that theory of mine.

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# 37
03-08-2012, 07:48 AM
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It would be great if we can lose the Ensign Tac slot for a single LtCom Tac slot....but I don't think we will get both a LtCom Tac and Eng. It may make it too overpowered....but hoping.
Why not? Doesn't the Excelsior have this already? I see no reason why a +1 Sovy shouldn't be BETTER than a +1 Excelsior. None at all...


+1 Sovy! +1 Sovy! +1 Sovy! GO GO GO!
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# 38
03-08-2012, 09:48 AM
Or also how about the ability to fire a burst just as stronger or stronger than a torpedo from the deflector just like in Generations or in TNG when they were going to use that idea against a borg cube? Can't remember if they did but i'm 100% they were planning to use that idea.
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# 39
03-08-2012, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RAJ_2011
What about adding the Picard Manoeuvre since we don't see it on the galaxy class. Also maybe rapid fire phasers? As seen in nemesis the phaser charge and shoot a lot faster than they do in first contact?
Picard manoever should be on a +1 Cheyenne.
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# 40
03-08-2012, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Raudl View Post
my idea was to give the odissey+1 a sovy skin with all the new features of the odissey: aux craft, saucer seperation... BOFF layout.

maybe that phase 2 sovy skin, which somebody posted prior. http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com...al-e-small.jpg

i have to say i never thought the sovy design could be improved anyhow, but that phase 2 design is just fantastic and needs to be put ingame in any way possible. Just imagine you, your sovy against a burg cube...it will be legen...


wait for it...
Well did you know that the sovereign we see in first contact and insurrections is actually a incomplete ship. I nemesis we were treated to see the what the sovereign class would have been at the end of the film if it was not for budget cuts. They were planning to do it in two stages, in nemesis we see the first phase or the design, better paint job, the extended hull were the main shuttle bay plus moving the pylons forward and a little bit risen, don't know why move them forwards it would have made her a little shorter but still the longest federation ship at the time, then we were going to see the final phase also know as 2nd at the end of nemesis as seen in the pic I posted earlier. The weapons were added because there was a blind spot so they added the phaser and more torpedoes for fire power. Personally I think the added torpedoes was a little bit too much maybe minus one or two of them.

Also I think an added science console would be brilliant for the plus+1 sovy if the devs decide not to add the ltc console.
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