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# 1 Terra Nova cancelled
03-07-2012, 06:31 PM
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Though the network declines to move forward with a second season of its pricey time traveling series from Steven Spielberg, 20th TV will attempt to shop it to other networks.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...ielberg-258808

.. saw that one coming
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# 2
03-07-2012, 06:54 PM
I had no idea why it was even a show... :p
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# 3
03-07-2012, 07:12 PM
Looks like the Millions of dollars went to special effects on every 5th show, where it should have gone into the sets, story and scripting. A huge difference in comparisons to say, Lost, that felt more polished. It felt like watching 4400 that Rene Echevarria was also involved in full of cardboard sets.
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# 4
03-08-2012, 01:14 AM
Just goes to show you sci fi has taken a crap dive in tv land...id say were due up for trek on tv again not stargate galactica not land of the lost terra nova. Notice the good stuff like firefly with its low budget was tons better and got the axe or babylon 5 wich was way ahead of its time and nearly cancellee like 4 times as well. Oh well...back to the walking dead and game of thrones.
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# 5
03-08-2012, 02:25 AM
terra nova was an ok show. it got decent towards the end but it was never amazing. sci-fi shows are always the first to get axed because of how much they cost. they never seem to pull in the viewers, yet strangely sci-fi films seem to do brilliantly at the box office.

its almost like there is a stigma around sci-fi tv shows that people dont want to watch them, yet they will go to the cinema to see virtually the same thing.

Fringe is another show on the bubble. it is a brilliant show but it will probably get cancelled because the viewing figures are not there.

i dont know if im more upset with the networks cancelling all these sci-fi shows like V, STU, enterprise, Farscape, Firefly etc or the public for not switching off the crap reality tv and watching something that is actually good.

At least the networks have a business reason, they wont have a show that effectively losses them money but why are people going to invest their time knowing that a show will be gone after one season.
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# 6
03-08-2012, 02:28 AM
The good news is reality tv in 100 years will be our scifi shows now haha....if we make it that long of course......
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# 7
03-08-2012, 02:34 AM
Sci Fi TV serials are very risky due to their high cost.

Personally, the era of space related TV shows or shows with a huge amount of special effects, and even Sci Fi in general is over - the Reality TV crowd outweight those with a heart for sci fi.

In regards to Terra Nova - I knew the show was going to get the proverbial axe, due to the simple fact that the premise itself was lame, and you can only do so much with it before it started to get repetitve.

Sure you have the man vs man factor - but might as well compare that to the dog chasing its own tail. The setting of Terra Nova lack any novelty and it was just a re-dressing of ancient shows and movies like "The Last Dinosaur," "The Land of the Lost," with the added twist of the movie "Millennium." You can also add in the modern movie Jurassic Park.
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# 8
03-08-2012, 03:03 AM
*facepalm* not again!

why do i always fall into the trap and start watching new shows on FOX?!
by now it should be clear to me that it just isn't worth my time because they CANCEL EVERYTHING!


RIP Terra Nova
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# 9
03-08-2012, 03:22 AM
Well it was on FOX .... (do I have to say more)

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The good news is reality tv in 100 years will be our scifi shows now haha....if we make it that long of course......
with all that reality TV etc etc ... thats probably the most likely Sci-Fi, thats gonna happen :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIweCIgwk
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# 10
03-08-2012, 03:35 AM
When are these idiot networks going to get it through their heads that a good story driven sci-fi show really needs 3 seasons to get it's self setup for the really good stuff. It never used to be like that when a season was 23-26 episodes that were 50 mins out of an hour, not the 40 mins out of an hour with 13 episodes they do now.

Season 1: Introduction to Cast/Characters and back-story (setting, technology, etc.)

Season 1 final episode/cliff hanger: The first episode to really start the main story-line/drama/action

Season 2: Continuation of Season 1 finale episode main story line start

Season 2: Slam and jam with main story-line action/drama. Not bogged down with back story/tech because that was taken care of in season 1

Season 2 Final Episode/Cliff Hanger: Expendable character death, or character arc reversal where most expendable becomes most important.

Season 3 Opening Episode: Continuation from season 2 finale and set up for the next 2-4 episodes to finish out Season 2 story arc.

Season 3 Rest of: 1/2 character driven, 1/2 setup for season 4 new main story line.

Season 3 Finale Episode: Beginning of season 4 Main story drama/action.

Simplest season outline possible. Even using this template over and over and on a variety of shows it wouldn't feel "recycled" if the storyline/cast/character arcs/Drama to action ratio is solid. If this feels "recycled" then that should be a good primer to base a rewrite redevelopment of the initial plot and/or layout.

The networks also need to finally realize that the old ratings system no longer works. There are numerous different ways that you can watch pretty much anything you want and the majority of them can't be tracked. The second it became possible to stream or download tv shows/movies the ratings system stopped being a reliable source, the networks need to finally play catch up and realize this, and adjust for that unknown variable better than they are now.
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