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# 121
04-16-2012, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cliftona91
Actually Swords do come in handy when you're in a bind and re configuring your rifle is just not a feasible option. He and a friend even took out Captain Ogen with just our Bat'leths when he adapted to our rifles.
I might try a ground run with Close Combat Specialist someday then.

Assimilate this! *roundhouse kick*
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# 122
04-16-2012, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by carmenara
I might try a ground run with Close Combat Specialist someday then.

Assimilate this! *roundhouse kick*
In this case. If you're a Tac. It's interesting an engineer create diversion with turrets and make health generator. You will have more chance to kill this bad captain Ogen. In my case, if I'm with a Tac. I create diversion and I make health generator nearby the Tac. And I run around Ogen and shot.
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# 123
04-17-2012, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 1nONLY_DRock
You know what's worse than a newbie who doesn't know what he's doing?

A veteran player who throws a fit, then throws the rest of the team to the wolves.

I was doing a ISE run a couple days ago. One of the newbies ignored the 10% rule (even after being instructed on how to do it). Oh well, stuff happens.

And that's when the vet player starts crying about how newbies always screw things up.... etc etc... the usual verbal wastage that comes out of their mouths. When trying to explain to the newbie how the scenario messed up and what to do for next time, this vet keeps running his mouth and undermining helpful advice. So finally I just had to tell the guy off, to be quiet.

So in response, the vet player decides to park his starship next to Starbase 82 and not help for the rest of the STF.

You know how aggravating it is to try and take out the end boss Tac Cube at the end with an undermanned and raw team of inexperienced players when one of the decent players decides to throw a fit and sit this one out?

So I say this to anyone that plays. Don't take the ball and stomp off in a bad mood, ruining the game for everyone. A foulup or two doesn't entitle you to act like a brat and leave the team out to hang.

And that's why I have more animosity towards vets who ruin STF's than I do towards newbies who ruin STF's. Newbies can be worked on. They're not newbies forever. People can learn from mistakes and get better. But Troll behavior usually doesn't change.
Yeah, that's rough. I'd much rather have some dude rage quit (not an unusual thing, sadly) than idle like a bum and waste a roster spot. At least open roster spots can be filled.
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# 124
04-17-2012, 02:53 PM
It was not my worst STF but it made STF as disgusting thing I don't play anymore. It was STF elite KASE.
We were 3 feds and 2 klings. When we attacked the cube. A vet asked who take the probes. No one answered. After 1 minute he left. We deal with the cube. I thought I saw all of them go to the transformer. But in fact no. One stay on my side trying to kill the transformer and 2 went the other side to kill the transformer. In my mind I thought we will fail. I ask them their strategy is wrong. No answer. The gate shoot me. After more than 30 minutes we kill the transformers and gates. The scimitar went out. At this moment another one left. We were 3. 2 feds and one klingon. The klingon never answered in the chat. He never fixed his ship. He got more than 10 damages without fixed. And his ship was the same ship I got when I started my klingon rerol.
The last guy said to me I should be better if I want to play STF elite and he left. STF is disgusting
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# 125
04-17-2012, 06:32 PM
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It was not my worst STF but it made STF as disgusting thing I don't play anymore. It was STF elite KASE.
We were 3 feds and 2 klings. When we attacked the cube. A vet asked who take the probes. No one answered. After 1 minute he left. We deal with the cube. I thought I saw all of them go to the transformer. But in fact no. One stay on my side trying to kill the transformer and 2 went the other side to kill the transformer. In my mind I thought we will fail. I ask them their strategy is wrong. No answer. The gate shoot me. After more than 30 minutes we kill the transformers and gates. The scimitar went out. At this moment another one left. We were 3. 2 feds and one klingon. The klingon never answered in the chat. He never fixed his ship. He got more than 10 damages without fixed. And his ship was the same ship I got when I started my klingon rerol.
The last guy said to me I should be better if I want to play STF elite and he left. STF is disgusting
Heh, that's why yesterday when I started my daily STF routine I would post "Good morning " in the chat knowing the team would at times be at risk of cocking up and blaming each other randomly for it.

Surprisingly some with feminine-looking account names would "hi" back and the maps were quite well run despite new players not getting any sense of targeting priority at first. No big deal, just give a gentle reminder where necessary.

What I do also when entering the map is select whichever friendly ship is in front of the group and just fire off a hazard emitter I to them. Whomever gets to firing range of the cube first gets an extend shields III automatically.

This tends to 'wake up' some players who appear to be flying while 'expecting the worst', and I normally have no problems coordinating strategy once the initial 'healing beam lightshow' was deployed.

I do have a routine of checking the team's blind spots once in a while. On Kithomer Space it's to ensure my side of the map has someone covering probes at all times. On Infected it's to do a suicide assault with tractor-repulsors to push away that huge group of nanite spheres in case the team does not 10% the generators properly.

On Cure I've stopped doing that with Elite PUGs because normals actually have proper teamwork 90% of the time now from my experience. Can't say the same for elites. Being a timing, initiative and DPS sensitive map, Cure Elite more often than not degenerates into eventual failure if one or two teammates do not know how to support the team's objective before their own.
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# 126
04-19-2012, 03:51 PM
Both of my worst STF were KASEs, I was arguing with some moron because we disagreed on which side to work on, he ends up having a go at me for going from one side to another, he says I was talking crap when I told him he was still on the generators when I arrived when there was one gen left- that still counts. Cue an extended flame war which only ended when one of the other team members let a probe through the gate, so the optional was lost anyway

Another was where I'd handled one entire side by myself- couple of the generators had been down but I was the only one firing on the transformers- I'd gotten the gate down to 70% when I was asked to help out the other side- they were struggling with a cube and still had one transformer left. Needless to say we lost the optional
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# 127
04-19-2012, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EnterpriseSovereign View Post
Both of my worst STF were KASEs, I was arguing with some moron because we disagreed on which side to work on, he ends up having a go at me for going from one side to another, he says I was talking crap when I told him he was still on the generators when I arrived when there was one gen left- that still counts. Cue an extended flame war which only ended when one of the other team members let a probe through the gate, so the optional was lost anyway

Another was where I'd handled one entire side by myself- couple of the generators had been down but I was the only one firing on the transformers- I'd gotten the gate down to 70% when I was asked to help out the other side- they were struggling with a cube and still had one transformer left. Needless to say we lost the optional
I prefer to let the team decide for itself the split ratio. I'll just post "engaging left" and the team either decides to all go the other way (I will auto-intercept probes) or to all follow me in which case I'll ask if they remembered to leave someone behind at the other gate.

I never attempted trying to organize the team using actual communications because of the poor manners 'certain persons' have, thus, actions speak louder than words!

There should be a sign posted before each STF - Leave attitude outside the door, this is a desperate war and we're sending you out with an ad hoc task force. Learn to work with your team to win. Or die trying
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# 128
04-20-2012, 06:49 AM
And now for something completely different...

Last night I had what was probably my best STF experience. I did a PUG on infected space and wound up in a rare group where everybody new exactly what they were doing and how and when to do it. It was a thing of beauty. The first cube and spheres went right down. Then everybody headed to the left gate. I parked my fleet escort in front of the small gate and waited til the group got the gennies to 10%. I don't attack the gennies because I run 4 MKXII dual heavies and a critical hit at the wrong time can easily blow a gennie prematurely. I leave the gennies to the beam boats who have better surgical control. Once the gennies were down I opened fire point blank, the rest of the group joined in and the small gate went down before the nanites knew what hit it. When the spheres showed up everybody concentrated on taking out one at a time and they popped pretty quickly. The right side and the tac cube went just as smoothly. Needless to say, we made the optional and I don't remember anybody even dying.
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# 129 Another day at the races
04-21-2012, 11:22 PM
I've been avoiding the STF grindes the last few days. And I am wishing I had continued to do so.

Cure Space Normal again. My personal favorite for noobe comedy.

It was me and four of them thar big shinny oddys.

I said 'HI' like I usually do. To which nobody responded which is normal.

I headed right, two followed me. One went to the left cube and One to the middle cube.

I thought 'Oh Goody.'

Me and the other two that went Right started shooting.

I usually blast a couple nodes before I look at the BoP's being spawned. But the other two were blasting away at the BoPs with their sparkly little rainbow technicolor beams. So I just killed all the nodes real quick.

I watched as the two that were with me followed the BoPs all the way back to the Kang just shooting away with their sparkly little rainbow technicolor beams.

I typed 'Please take your rainbow technicolor beams off stun.'

Nobody responded.

I finished the cube real quick and flew back to the Kang to kill the Borg.

That was when I saw all four of the other ships were there blasing away with their sparkly little rainbow technicolor beams.

I thought 'Oh Goody.'

I killed all the Borg, healed the Kang and headed to the second cube.

I started over to the second cube and noticed the other four had split up, two to the second cube and two to the third.

The two at the second cube started in at the BOPs and I started killing nodes.

The two with me followed the BOPs all the way back to the Kang.

I again typed 'Please take your technicolor rainbow weapons off stun.'

Somebody with sparkly little rainbow technicolor beams responded with 'FU.'

By now all four of the others had followed the Borg all the way back to the Kang so I finished the nodes real quick and flew to the Kang, finished all the Borg and healed the Kang which was at 76%.

I flew back to the Middle cube and killed it then flew over to the third.

The other four were already there following the Nag Veys (Or whatever you call them) back to the Kang.

I figured there was no way they could kill them so I finished them off real quick.

I flew back to the Cube and started in at the nodes.

The other four were shooting spawning ships.

So I typed, 'I know you guys are weak but I could use some help so we don't run out of time.'

Somebody responded 'Your Mama.'

So I typed, 'Please take your technicolor rainbow weapons off stun.'

I proceded to finish off the nodes then the cube.

I then typed, 'SOMEBODY HAIL THE KANG!" with all of 10 seconds left on the clock.

I put my ship in Evasive, hit Omega and did the best I could to get there because my shields were still up.

The other four were just shooting away at the Borg with their sparkly little rainbow technicolor beams.

I got there just in time and got the Kang on it's way.

NOW FOR THE CARRIER!!!

I've decided long ago that it does no good to get mad at noobes. They are just people who's mommy wouldn't let them use the credit card before F2P came along. They are probably having difficulty in middle school with the ABC's, 1+1 and all that fine stuff. So I just brush it off...

So here they come to the Carrier.

I set there 3k from the carrier and watched. I didn't fire even once.

I noticed that two of them were focusing on nothing but the BoP's that were spawning.

So about five minutes in I got bored and killed the carrier.

Somebody typed 'WoW, what kind of weapons are those?

I typed 'They sure the hell aren't sparkly little rainbow technicolor beams.'

And I flew away into the sunset.

I'll wait another week or two before doing another pug grind.
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# 130
04-21-2012, 11:33 PM
I was doing a CSE today

The match started off with me doing my usual thing of taking out the BoP from each side... usually I do 2 and then the others in the group get the third wave... but for some reason no one did, and then the Kang was rocked hard with multiple heavy plasma torps before I took them out... the match had BARELY begun and the Kang was at 49% health... I expressed my absolute bewilderment at that to the team.... the rest of the match is like, don't blow up the cube... of course they do... then they act surprised
I did my thing where I flew after Raptors and used my Tractor Repulsors to push them out of firing range for the Kang... I actually had another person in the group ask me to stop pushing things around, and I had only just pushed those Raptors... they had completely missed the point why I was doing it...they thoguht I was fooling around making it hard for them to shoot at the Raptor.... if I had letit go they would swarmed on the Kang and destroyed it in seconds...

Honestly

And I saw in another CSE, a tac captain with a MVAM ship that had rainbow cannons and no torpedoes... just blew my mind
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