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# 1 Tech Drops and the Optional
04-17-2012, 07:17 AM
Ok, so, I've search and searched and searched through the forums but never could find something that was clear cut on this for myself.

It seems that, via alot of zone chat, theres two sides of the fence. One side says you do not need the optional completed to get the prototype tech drop for ground elite stf. The other side of the fence is the opposite.

Now this isn't me asking if the tech drops out of the optional loot bag, oh no. I'm meaning people seem to think that if you do not complete the optional, the tech drop itself is somehow cut out of the final roll for what goes in your loot at the end of the instance.

If you've managed to get ground prototype tech ( psg, gun, armor ) without the optional, I'd love to hear it.

Even better, if a dev like gozer or someone responded and said, " No, you do not need the optional to get final tech loot drop. "

Personally, I'm strongly believing you don't need it. >_> After all, thats just silly. I think the abysmal droprates are just making people cook up rumors and superstition, but it'd be nice to have some responses!
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# 2
04-17-2012, 07:37 AM
I've have gotten the Borg Tech without getting the optional.

The optional basically gives you a better chance in getting Borg Salvage.

Now I am unsure if getting the optional gives you a better chance at seeing Borg Tech, but I know it is not required to get the Borg Tech.
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# 3
04-17-2012, 07:50 AM
I figured, but the people in, say, elite infected ground who immediately drop group if the optional fails is rather annoying. @@

That optional is ever more difficult than cure elite optional it seems.
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# 4
04-17-2012, 07:59 AM
lets put this dead horse and bat to bed shall we ?

You do not need optional for very rare or rare proto tech drop

Source - first hand experience running hundreds of elites across multiple toons where the optional has failed but the very rare or rare proto tech has dropped

Thats all there is to it !
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# 5
04-17-2012, 08:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew_Harnaman
lets put this dead horse and bat to bed shall we ?

You do not need optional for very rare or rare proto tech drop

Source - first hand experience running hundreds of elites across multiple toons where the optional has failed but the very rare or rare proto tech has dropped

Thats all there is to it !
Hey, I hit search first and scoured as hard as I could through the function for anything revelant. I was just confirming via here. ;p
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# 6
04-17-2012, 08:06 AM
There are NO tech drops in the optional loot bag. You do not need to finish the optional in order to get any type of tech, though you have a chance to get prototype salvage in the optional bags.

You need to finish all of the optionals if you want to get the elite accolade though.

-Quiiliitiila
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# 7
04-17-2012, 08:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosebloome
Hey, I hit search first and scoured as hard as I could through the function for anything revelant. I was just confirming via here. ;p
Oh no didnt mean for it to come across like that i just see a lot of tripe like this and infact have come across players on runs who swear blindly by it. Who makes up this nonsense in the first place anyway ?

When your lootbag is made up at the end the rare or very rare comes from its own table which when the bag gets created the table gets rolled on.

Its a bit like if your at a casino, and you have to roll a twenty sided dice, and you have to get 20 for the very rare, 15 or above for the rare, and anything below that comprises of the useless stuff. The suprise boxes are on a table of theur own, hence you always see a lock box.

It is pure random luck who gets the proto tech !
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# 8
04-17-2012, 09:56 AM
Somewhat hilariously, in the 10-14 rare tech drops and both prototype drops I've gotten grinding elite STFs, none of them have dropped when we successfully completed the optional. In fact, both prototype drops I got were from sticking out nearly hour-long runs with terrible teams in an attempt to finally finish the thing so I could queue up again without a penalty. (Both drops infected, 1x ground, 1x space)

That's actually the whole reason why I suffer through that.
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# 9
04-17-2012, 10:28 AM
It is independent. I've gotten tech drops with and without the optional being completed.

Note: This is not a good reason to fail the optional foolishly...
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# 10
04-17-2012, 07:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Naevius
It is independent. I've gotten tech drops with and without the optional being completed.

Note: This is not a good reason to fail the optional foolishly...
Every eltie stf I enter, I enter with the intention to at least try and complete the optionals. Right now, the only optional I need for any elite to finish is Infected Ground and that seems to be such a paaiinnnn. Then again, I PuG through the volunteer function.
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