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# 21
03-27-2012, 11:47 PM
Lots of painful news in this thread. I have to say, given my testing, I have to agree. The Vessel just is not made for it. How... unfortunate. I think Star trek was supposed to be all about Science Ships, exploration and - wasn't the Defiant a shock because it was the first 'warship'?

There is a real imbalance here. Science Ships? Why bother. The last few suggestions look as 'good' as I am going to get. Dump the ship and fly a cruiser or escort with a Sci. Captain. Kind of sad though - isn't it?
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# 22
03-28-2012, 09:20 AM
My best STF ships at the moment are my RSV and Varanus, you just have to remember that science vessels are there for support, not DPS. Use repair platforms to keep allies healed up and in the fight, photonic fleet to get more weapons on target from more angles, aceton assimilators combined with jam sensors to cause enemies to kill themselves, gravity well and barrier shields to halt enemy probes and spheres, all the while spamming engineering/science team and hazard emitters at whoever needs it.

Here's my RSV build as it stands:

Fore: Tetryon Beam Array (Mk XI anti-borg), Tetryon Dual Beam Bank (Mk XI anti-borg), Rapid-Reload Transphasic Torpedo Mk XI
Aft: x2 Tetryon Beam Array (Mk XI anti-borg), Rapid-Reload Transphasic Torpedo Mk XI

Engines: MACO Mk XI
Deflector: MACO Mk XI
Shields: MACO Mk XI

Eng. Consoles: Neutronium Armor Mk X (blue), EPS Flow Regulator Mk X (blue)
Sci. Consoles: Graviton Pulse Generator, Emitter Array Mk X (purple), Inertial Dampers Mk XI (blue), Particle Generator Mk X (blue)
Tac. Consoles: x2 Tetryon Pulse Generator Mk X (blue), Transphasic Compressor Mk X (blue)

Boffs:
Lt. Tac: Beam Fire at Will I, Torpedo Spread II
En.Tac: Tactical Team I
Lt. Eng: Engineering Team I, Emergency Power to Shields II
Cm. Sci: Jam Sensors I, Tachyon Beam II, Photonic Shockwave II, Gravity Well III
LtCm. Sci: Science Team I, Tractor Beam Repulsors I, Hazard Emitters III
Lt. Commander
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# 23
03-28-2012, 09:44 AM
The Jem'hadar set is really s*h*i*t, I'm not surprise at all you get frustrated in elite STF. Do 15 normal ones and then buy yourself a bog set, you really need this.

Tactical team I is really useless, you could better use the torpedo Spread 1. Remember you don't drive an escort here, your usefullness isn't in your dps, and that some more power to weapon is useless when you have to respawn and are unable to use any weapon for 15 secs.

Remove your Grav Well II and buy a TSS III. If you remove your EPTW and change this for an emergency power to aux, you will get far more shield regen. You could use two TSS, the II and the III.

With this ship, you need to have the best shield regen sequence available, that's the way it works, otherwise, you won't get any benefit from it. I'm using it in every single elite STF, and it works well. I'm the debuff guy with the tractor beam, tyken's rift III and target shields subsystem, and the tacs are here to deal more damage.

Don't forget to use all your debuff abilities and the photonic fleet too.

And BTW i often end 2nd in most PvE Fleet actions, such as klingon scout force and starbase 24 with this bucket, so we have to assume it's your fault if you try to play it like an escort.
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# 24
03-28-2012, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by diogene0
The Jem'hadar set is really s*h*i*t, I'm not surprise at all you get frustrated in elite STF. Do 15 normal ones and then buy yourself a bog set, you really need this.

Remove your Grav Well II and buy a TSS III. If you remove your EPTW and change this for an emergency power to aux, you will get far more shield regen. You could use two TSS, the II and the III.
One, the JH set is great if you're running polarons and gravity well, since it buffs both. Its not MACO obviously, but only requires 3 missions to assemble. And two, TSS-3 is a Lt Cmdr power, Grav Well 2 is Cmdr, so he can do both.
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# 25
03-28-2012, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by diogene0
Tactical team I is really useless, you could better use the torpedo Spread 1. Remember you don't drive an escort here, your usefullness isn't in your dps, and that some more power to weapon is useless when you have to respawn and are unable to use any weapon for 15 secs.
I have to disagree, TT1 is more than just a weapon buff, it also refocuses your shields toward whatever facing is receiving the most damage AND repels borders. If you use it as a heal instead of a buff it can work wonders.
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