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# 1 Nerfed Theta Radiation
03-29-2012, 03:28 AM
http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...03#post4128103

•Theta Radiation clouds no longer stack their debuffs on targets unfortunate enough to get caught inside


What they giveth with one hand, they take away with many others...

Going to make STFs more interesting at least!
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# 2
03-29-2012, 03:51 AM
It needed this correction.
VTR was able to stack up to 20 times on a single target giving it the ability to strip 1000+ points a shields a second, -50% crew a second and stack movement debuffs that one could not voercome with the proper counters.
Granted you had to target it correctly in order to get that stacking to work right but when it did it was OP.

I only hope they didn't swing the Nerf hammer so hard as to over nerf it, as they have a tendacy to do.
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# 3
03-29-2012, 03:53 AM
Yes the problem is that people can get tired of all this nonsense.

So is going to be the same give a pass that risk yourself and put in slow motion while all the crap is raining at you because someone thinks that theta shouldn´t stack, nice deal now theta is a unusefull power and they dont even conform with give HE the full time of hazar remove.

Just to let you know criptic, warp plasma is a ability that everyone can use it, while theta radiation is a ability
that we buy and is not cheap 1200 cp so again whines wins.


But one thing is for sure klingos will still mocking feds in pvp with or without theta.
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# 4
03-29-2012, 04:01 AM
Has it been tested to determine its now nerfed into uselessness or was it just in the Tribble notes and assumed to be now useless?
It could go iether way, really, as Cryptic does swing the hammer too hard at times.
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# 5
03-29-2012, 06:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peliagus
Yes the problem is that people can get tired of all this nonsense.

So is going to be the same give a pass that risk yourself and put in slow motion while all the crap is raining at you because someone thinks that theta shouldn´t stack, nice deal now theta is a unusefull power and they dont even conform with give HE the full time of hazar remove.

Just to let you know criptic, warp plasma is a ability that everyone can use it, while theta radiation is a ability
that we buy and is not cheap 1200 cp so again whines wins.


But one thing is for sure klingos will still mocking feds in pvp with or without theta.
Difference is EWP is a hold and DoT whereas VTR is a hold, shield drain, kills crew and has a perception debuff. EWP also doesn't stack, only applying one movement debuff and DoT per tick whereas VTR stacks.

With the fix you're getting what you paid for whereas right now you're getting more than that, up to twenty times that if you can get the maximum number stacked on your target. I'm sure Cryptic will be happy to make you something twenty times more powerful if that's your thing but I'd look out for the 24k CP price tag if this is the going rate for power.
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# 6
03-29-2012, 08:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peliagus
Yes the problem is that people can get tired of all this nonsense.

So is going to be the same give a pass that risk yourself and put in slow motion while all the crap is raining at you because someone thinks that theta shouldn´t stack, nice deal now theta is a unusefull power and they dont even conform with give HE the full time of hazar remove.

Just to let you know criptic, warp plasma is a ability that everyone can use it, while theta radiation is a ability
that we buy and is not cheap 1200 cp so again whines wins.


But one thing is for sure klingos will still mocking feds in pvp with or without theta.
This is why there is zero reason to buy anything when it first comes out. They test for like two days and then push it live to sell it and then nerf things after they see they made a mistake.. I was thinking of buying the new flag ship but then I heard one of the Dev say “well, if is OP we will nerf it later.”

Forget that. I am not dropping $25 to $50 on something that they will turn around in two months and say “oops, sorry we did not think this through and are taking away X ablilty."
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# 7
03-29-2012, 08:37 AM
I did a test with a fleetmate, he was in the Brel Retrofit (FTW!) and I was in the Defiant.

He Vented Theta Radiation all over me and.... my moving speed hardly changed, my shields barely went down, my crew barely went down and I could still see within a great distance.

I was in that Theta Could for a full 10 seconds.The old one would have made me completly dead, but this barely affected me at all. It was more like running through fog that anything.

I suggest to the devs perhaps increasing the value of each of the numbers if it is not going to be stacked. Doubling it could help, trippling it? May need testing. Either way, it needs a buff.
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# 8
03-29-2012, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ooiue View Post
I did a test with a fleetmate, he was in the Brel Retrofit (FTW!) and I was in the Defiant.

He Vented Theta Radiation all over me and.... my moving speed hardly changed, my shields barely went down, my crew barely went down and I could still see within a great distance.

I was in that Theta Could for a full 10 seconds.The old one would have made me completly dead, but this barely affected me at all. It was more like running through fog that anything.

I suggest to the devs perhaps increasing the value of each of the numbers if it is not going to be stacked. Doubling it could help, trippling it? May need testing. Either way, it needs a buff.
And that would sound like it was over nerfed.
DO any skills or power levels affect VTR ?
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# 9
03-29-2012, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Roach View Post
And that would sound like it was over nerfed.
DO any skills or power levels affect VTR ?

Particle generators does but only the amount of shields drain.

Now i can speak with property, this skill is a waste of slots, furthermore the duration is so short that warp plasma is better for snare a enemy rn and the shield drain is insignificant with all skill points in particle generators plus a console the drain goes to 182, to no speak about the perception debuff that don´t works at all, and since i don´t tested it on myself prolly the crew kill will not work either.

And to worst the thing if you get traped in a theta cluod you shot you HE and walk stright the line the cluod is deployed without any harm.

Incomprensible pathetic and no wanted at all NERF.

Instead to fix things like get decloak with officer message or get hit by torpedos when battle cloack they do this to us.

I´m losing the will to still playing tbh, this is becoming a scaming machine everyday that pass off.



Since im not having what i bought should i put a ticket for a refund?
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# 10
03-29-2012, 10:06 AM
In the meantime, I'd probably go for some other console rather than Theta Radiation in the meantime (like Graviton Pulse, Subspace Jump, Aceton Assimilator etc.). Its a shame because I payed for this console and now its almost useless to me .

Anyways, like I said, it needs a buff.
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