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# 11
03-31-2012, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by xceptionzero View Post
nah you would just end with cloaked afkers instead
Like the klinks already do?

@MRSuperTrekGuy: "The battle cloak is unique to the Klingons and should stay that way. The KDF is already the "mistreated" faction with little dev attention compared to the Feds."

The content bit about the klinks being neglected is true when you consider missions. I have to disagree if you are talking ships though. The Klingon ships are awesome and varied in appearance. Sure some of them may not work as nicely as they should... but there is certainly some unique stuff there. The biggest complaint about the ships I have for the Klingons..... seems like they have to buy more of their ships off of the c-store.... that is something that should change to help with the "mistreated" feeling. That being said..... this whole Klingon's are "mistreated" line is getting very old. I think we should accept the fact that the Klingon's will never be what they should have been content wise (which makes me wonder why we would ever want another faction added to the game).
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# 12
03-31-2012, 08:24 AM
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The content bit about the klinks being neglected is true when you consider missions. I have to disagree if you are talking ships though. The Klingon ships are awesome and varied in appearance. Sure some of them may not work as nicely as they should... but there is certainly some unique stuff there. The biggest complaint about the ships I have for the Klingons..... seems like they have to buy more of their ships off of the c-store.... that is something that should change to help with the "mistreated" feeling. That being said..... this whole Klingon's are "mistreated" line is getting very old. I think we should accept the fact that the Klingon's will never be what they should have been content wise (which makes me wonder why we would ever want another faction added to the game).
What? There's shockingly few Klingon ships, whereas Starfleet has multiple free options at T5 & more c-store options for every class in every tier. For KDF, you sometimes have to buy outfits/p2w consoles in the c-store to actually be able to change the appearance of your ship. What you can buy off the KDF c-store has extremely limited options in appearance because they aren't really Klingon ships... they are Gorn, Nausicaan, whatever. Unique, perhaps, but hardly Klingon... and for a brutal repressive empire to have more of a scattershot approach to ship hulls than Starfleet? I think a lot of KDF players would LOVE to see more actual Klingon designs in the shipyard.

As for "mistreated", it is what it is. I rather like to think of it as a running gag. It is all rather humorous, I think. How delightful it would be to have a Romulan faction in the game. Just delightful.
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# 13
03-31-2012, 08:56 AM
Stop trying to take all the Klingons have!
Greedy Feds!
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# 14
03-31-2012, 09:31 AM
Both sides having cloaks would make for some very boring PvP, because nobody would be willing to uncloak first to let the first strike happen.
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# 15
03-31-2012, 09:45 AM
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Both sides having cloaks would make for some very boring PvP, because nobody would be willing to uncloak first to let the first strike happen.
Funny how that goes. Swg spy wars were this. Ppl would make alts to be spies to take out other spies that were ganking their mains and what would actually happen is you'd have two cloaked spies on both factions instead of just the one. Nothing like being in a neutral guild that had both factions and sitting on Tc listening to both sides complain that there was no action in open world pvp zones then finding out that there were 10 ppl on spies both rebel and empire and they just couldnt see each other.
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# 16
03-31-2012, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by xceptionzero View Post
nah you would just end with cloaked afkers instead
Stupid question ,afkers what is that, not sure what this is, you have to admit though having all these cloaked ships would make the nebula/ klknk counter part if they have one a very valuable weapons
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# 17
03-31-2012, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MRSuperTrekGuy View Post
The battle cloak is unique to the Klingons and should stay that way. The KDF is already the "mistreated" faction with little dev attention compared to the Feds.
Which has never made ANY sense to me... the original "canon" explanation was that the Federation decided against cloaking tech after Kirk stole it from the Romulans because it's inherently unstable and there's a slight chance, when engaging, that the ship would explode. Well if THAT'S the case it seems to me that, every once in a while, when my Klingon Cap engages the cloak the ship should just blow up (MAL: We may experience a bit of turbulence and then... explode. JAYNE: I don't wanna explode!). If that's NOT the case then why wouldn't the Federation employ the technology?

As for the Picard explanation (from the TNG episode involving an experimental Fed cloak) that we have a treaty... that made even less sense and besides... THIS IS WAR, DAMMIT! :p
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# 18
03-31-2012, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by seanftd View Post
Hi just wondering , can federations players get a battle cloak on the defiant of galaxy x? Just seen some Klingon players usin them in pvp wouldn't mid one myself, although I am pretty sure j know what the answer is going to be, but hey I might be wrong .
The defiant needs the battle cloak. If the devs cannot fix messages disabling cloak, then it defeats the purpose of us cloaking before a battle. And, when during the battle are you out of combat long enough to re-engage the cloak for the de-cloaking bonus?
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# 19
03-31-2012, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MRSuperTrekGuy View Post
The battle cloak is unique to the Klingons and should stay that way. The KDF is already the "mistreated" faction with little dev attention compared to the Feds.
Deliberately having faction imbalance in regard to ability is not the answer to faction mistreatment. If it fits within the canon of the game, then it's silly to not allow it simply because the dev's spent and will continue to spend more mission development time on the other faction.

It just leads to a whole host of gameplay problems.
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# 20
03-31-2012, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by seanftd View Post
Well your s barrel of laughs
Yes I am.

Have you actually checked the differences of ships? the strongest hull on a Raider is 24,000 (Hegh'ta), only Escorts under Captain rank have weaker hulls that it.

What Raiders pay for their Battlecloaks is a heavy price, they get less hull, less weapons and less BO stations (even if they do get all Universals for that).

You want a Battlecloak at what cost? You want to lose 6,000 hull or more? It would not come free because it comes not come free for Raiders either ... you would not be able to go cloaked in Ker'rat on a cruiser as not even Klingon Battleruisers get Battlecloak and neither do Raptors.
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