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# 11
04-04-2012, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by thenewteddy
But at any of these stages there can be changes to reflect "operational reality".
To me this is the real issue. People seem to think that no one can change their mind. That someone can think X is a good idea and a few months later realize it's a terrible idea and that they shouldn't do it. People change their minds, and corporations change directions based on where they think revenues will come from. It's just as true with McDonalds selling Lattes as it is with Mom-and-Pop Hardware deciding to no-longer stock and sell chicken wire because it just eats up inventory revenue.
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# 12
04-04-2012, 04:23 PM
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To give you my personal 2 GPLs, Nagus, I suspect there's a gulf between what you want to hear and the truth.
The only thing I want to hear is a clear answer to my question: What does PW want for the KDF? And possibly(depending on the 1st answer): Why did they change what they wanted?

What I personally may want for the KDF is totally irrelevant to the question(s) I'm asking.
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# 13
04-04-2012, 04:29 PM
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The only thing I want to hear is a clear answer to my question: What does PW want for the KDF? And possibly(depending on the 1st answer): Why did they change what they wanted?

What I personally may want for the KDF is totally irrelevant to the question(s) I'm asking.
You seem to be confusing 'want' with 'going to happen.' I want world peace. Wanting it doesn't make it happen.

I want to retire wealthy, but wanting it doesn't make me wealthy.

To paraphrase Scarface, "First you get the money, then you get the power, THEN you get the KDF equality."
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# 14
04-04-2012, 04:31 PM
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The only thing I want to hear is a clear answer to my question: What does PW want for the KDF? And possibly(depending on the 1st answer): Why did they change what they wanted?

What I personally may want for the KDF is totally irrelevant to the question(s) I'm asking.
PWE wants a healthy game, but different individuals have different opinions. Some would argue that a healthy 2 faction pvp game should be the goal, while others may argue having a full level 1-51 experience for KDF would be another goal. At the end of the day, Cryptic has to decide how we spend our manpower and address the long term health of the game (which is what everyone at Cryptic/PW is ultimately watching over).

So Cryptic has approached the healthy game target with different options and right now that option is focus on End Game because nearly everyone is Level 51 so any effort there benefits everyone and the long term health of the game the most. If we can do more, we will.
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# 15
04-04-2012, 04:31 PM
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I want to retire wealthy, but wanting it doesn't make me wealthy.
Wanting to retire wealthy is the first step to being wealthy. All the other steps are a lot harder, though.
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# 16
04-04-2012, 04:32 PM
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You seem to be confusing 'want' with 'going to happen.'
You seem to be confusing things I said with things I didnt say.
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# 17
04-04-2012, 04:35 PM
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Wanting to retire wealthy is the first step to being wealthy. All the other steps are a lot harder, though.
Nah, its a step, but not a required one... you can become wealthy incidentally (such as inheritance or a lottery win).
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# 18
04-04-2012, 04:35 PM
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PWE wants a healthy game, but different individuals have different opinions.
I think that is obvious. However if it is simply a matter of different people having different opinions, they why did you tell us that PW(in a collective context) wanted the KDF to be on par with the Feds?

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We are talking about this... it might happen. Also, had some more discussions with Perfect World today about Klingon Play and they want to invest to ensure that the Klingon Faction gets up to par with the Feds as soon as we can staff up and do it, with the emphasis on Fed vs Kdf gameplay (pvp, pve). This is good news and I'm working on the long term schedule for how we are going to get there.
http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...71#post3715871

Why were we repeatedly told that PW(in a collective context) wanted equal factions if it was simply a matter of "different individuals have different opinions"?
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# 19
04-04-2012, 04:38 PM
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PWE wants a healthy game,
Heh. Thought they bought a healthy game already?

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Cryptic has to decide how we spend our manpower and address the long term health of the game (which is what everyone at Cryptic/PW is ultimately watching over).
What happened to all that extra manpower and resource infusion the sale was bringing?

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because nearly everyone is Level 51 so any effort there benefits everyone and the long term health of the game the most. If we can do more, we will.
That's a direct contradiction of the last time you folks addressed that topic. It really is. The whole thing about "data mining" and how people were found to be mostly in the 20s in terms of level.

/sigh
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# 20
04-04-2012, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by The.Grand.Nagus View Post
The only thing I want to hear is a clear answer to my question: What does PW want for the KDF? And possibly(depending on the 1st answer): Why did they change what they wanted?

What I personally may want for the KDF is totally irrelevant to the question(s) I'm asking.
Thing is, you're not the first person to ask that question since DStahl's return; and it's one they seem to be avoiding/deflecting at every turn - leading me to believe:

1) Yes, PWE/Cryptic did change their mind with regard to future development for the KDF as far as what was said during the nF2P transition days (including a post by Stromshade emphatically stating a "Klingon content patch was in the works - and that he wouldn't come to the Forums to post such if he hadn't heard it from multiple internal Cryptic Devs.)

and

2) Regardless of how much you, I, or anyone else (including the ardent supporters of the KDF faction who've been lead around and teased with "it's coming" too many times in the past year and REALLY deserve an upfront, honest and straightforward) answer. I don't think we'll EVER get it officially, as it would honestly put Cryptic/PWE in the position of fending off the negative reactions and press that a current honest answer to this question would bring STO.

And lastly, rememebr this whole thing is probably out of the Dev's hands and even DStahl's hands as I'm sure the decision was made at upper management levels; and while we probably will see the occassional addition of KDF content (like 'Alpha') every once in a while the "KDF Content Patch" atm, is just off the table. But, you won''t them comment on anything that would or could be seen as nothing but 'negative' in the gaming press; and saying "Yes, Cryptic/PWE has changed our minds RE: a fuul PVE KDF faction in the near term (say, within the year2013 )" would be seen and reported as exactly that and even cause players who don't really have a view, or realize the situation, to become aware, and have a negative reaction.

And like you, how I personally feel about th KDF faction, and what I want or don't want to see have no bearing on my above comments. And if Cryptic/PWE proves me wrong and gives a upfront/straightforward/honest answer to the question, I be happy to take the above back and say - "Hey, I was wrong."

ETA: I see DStahl came in and posted as I was typing the above; and while I think it is an honest answer; it's not all that upfront with regard to the "KDF Content patch" that was mentioned as "coming" and "why they now start new KDF characters at 23 and require new players to play a Fed to 25; so we have ime to 'backfill' KDF PvP content. Either way, it's pretty evident Cryptic/PWE's focus has again changed with regard to KDF only PvE story mission content from what was stated during the F2P transition.
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