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Pretty straightforward post. I like ships with hybrid LtC build loadouts. I like the smell of them, I like the shape of them, mostly I like the idea of them. They say to me, "Yes, there are more than 5 ways to play this game!"

Now, ignoring the other potential problems for the moment, today I want to talk about game balance, because I can't imagine it would be that much of a problem. On the other hand, I'm notoriously bad at this game so I want to throw it open to players who are better at this game.

Friends, country men, lend me your brains and tell me, what ship would be overpowered with a universal lieutenant commander station? I'm only coming up with a possible problem from the Vorcha-R, as the only canon viable cruiser in the game it may receive an overpowering boost from a rank 3 tactical power.
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# 2
04-06-2012, 12:53 PM
Something like an escort with rank 3 heals? I'd hate to see a sci officer in an escort with top end heals...
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# 3
04-06-2012, 12:56 PM
Um promethius MVAM can have LTC sci heals... so ya. And even if it was eng heals considering the weaker shields and hull and lost dps to get eng over tac skills, it all balances out. Truth is no ships OP with LTC universal, its crap they throw in past that part that does it.
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# 4
04-06-2012, 01:01 PM
I like using the LtCmdr Science Ability Feedback Pulse on my MVAM as it gives it that little bit extra hull damage.

I would like to see a universal LtCmdr slot on ships as it would give you a better build on some ships.
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# 5
04-06-2012, 01:41 PM
An oberth would be overpowered with a universal LtC slot.
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# 6
04-06-2012, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by superchum View Post
An oberth would be overpowered with a universal LtC slot.
Damn, now where do I find that "arguably not overpowered" quote from when they released the Rhode Island?
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# 7
04-06-2012, 07:38 PM
A Defiant-R or a Fleet Escort might be a little OP with a LtC. Universal.
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# 8
04-06-2012, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Doomicile
A Defiant-R or a Fleet Escort might be a little OP with a LtC. Universal.
An LtC science? That'd be like the MVAE. An LtC engineer would be something new, but I'm having trouble figuring how that could be more useful to an escort than a tactical officer. Perhaps you could explain your reasoning?
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# 9
04-06-2012, 08:02 PM
The BoPs which have universal slots have 1 less Tac console (moved to sci), 1 less Ensign Boff and 1 less rear weapon mount point. They also lose a lot of hull and some shields for the cloak, but that's slightly off topic other then to enforce they do have tradeoffs.

Assuming a Defiant wouldn't lose anything for what you're asking, it could decloak & PSW for stun, then heaviest alpha in game. Or it could decloak, CPB & heaviest alpha in game. Or decloak, use EWP to trap a target & heaviest alpha in game. People complain about BoPs damage when the Defiant has a higher potential.

Defiants & MVAE are considered above most of the KDF Escort style ships by PvPers as is. Sci ships options on Fed side are way better then what KDF have as well. The plus 1 cruisers already have this option, so not much point in debating balance.

What your asking for is to buff them further, while you have the option to either get another ship which has the slots for the builds you want, roll another character, or roll a KDF and fly a squishy BoP and have all the universals you want. Honestly, I'd suggest rolling the KDF BoP to try it out and if you have any interest in PvP spend some time @ each tier PvPing so you can get a sense of balance for yourself.
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# 10
04-06-2012, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jermbot View Post
An LtC science? That'd be like the MVAE. An LtC engineer would be something new, but I'm having trouble figuring how that could be more useful to an escort than a tactical officer. Perhaps you could explain your reasoning?
Assuming it still has a Cmdr Tac station and an Ensign Tac Station + Cloaking Device, it could either be very Tanky with a LtC Engineering, or have an abundancy of CC and energy drain capability with a LtC Sci BOFF to compensate for a slight drop of DPS without the secondary LtC Tac BOFF. I just think it would make it versatilie beyond balanced.

As for a Fleetscort, it's already Tanky but now with more Tac or Sci options.
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