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Now, I'm not dissappointed by the ship design itself... What I'm dissappointed in is the huge amount of hype we had on this ship, and its period of use is short.

To be honest, I always thought the Stargazer class was going to be an end game ship, but now, after 2 years, I think back figure... "Why is this ship where it is?"

Am I the only one wondering why the Stargazer was hyped, and then lost in the myriad messes?
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# 2
04-07-2012, 10:56 PM
I really like the design, despite some flaws that I've tried to point out since beta, but since when was the Stargazer class ever "hyped"?
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# 3
04-07-2012, 11:40 PM
It was this huge deal before launch that there was a stargazer class and that its brand new for 2409. I believe it was talked about more than the Noble class, but a little less than the Dervish class
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# 4
04-08-2012, 01:14 AM
It was hyped?
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# 5
04-08-2012, 03:39 AM
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It was hyped?
In the same way the Excalibur wasd "hyped": it was featured in a handful of articles with bits and pieces of background.
When that's hyping these days...
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# 6
04-08-2012, 04:53 AM
I dislike the Siamese Twin designs of thenacelles. And of course, it's weird that the Tier 5 quad nacelle ship, the Advanced Escort, is an Escort, while the Stargazer is a Cruiser. Or an NPC only ship (Jupiter).
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# 7
04-08-2012, 04:59 AM
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I dislike the Siamese Twin designs of thenacelles. And of course, it's weird that the Tier 5 quad nacelle ship, the Advanced Escort, is an Escort, while the Stargazer is a Cruiser. Or an NPC only ship (Jupiter).
Well, one of the reasons for that is that appearently ships "grow" with each tier (for the most part) and as a result high-level escorts/raptors/BoPs dwarf lower-level cruisers.

So at least keeping that in mind it does make sense that the Advanced Escort as a rather "large" vessel compared to the lower-level cruisers is not actually a cruiser but an escort.

What I find odd is that the old Excelsior outperforms the much newer Cheyenne and her "cousins" in nearly every way.
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# 8
04-08-2012, 06:15 AM
I'm more disappointed that there isn't a higher tier version of a brand new ship.
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# 9
04-08-2012, 09:52 AM
I personally used the design all the way through both commander and captain ranks because I liked it so much.
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# 10
04-08-2012, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mister_dee
Well, one of the reasons for that is that appearently ships "grow" with each tier (for the most part) and as a result high-level escorts/raptors/BoPs dwarf lower-level cruisers.

So at least keeping that in mind it does make sense that the Advanced Escort as a rather "large" vessel compared to the lower-level cruisers is not actually a cruiser but an escort.

What I find odd is that the old Excelsior outperforms the much newer Cheyenne and her "cousins" in nearly every way.
The Advanced Escort is not "larger" than the Stargazer or other T3 Heavy Cruisers. It's only slightly larger than the Defiant (probably closer to an Intrepid, but not larger than even an Intrepid). The T3 Heavy Cruisers are all about Nebula-sized. The Prometheus is, however, designed more for head-on combat, (impulse) speed and maneuverability, where as the Stargazer is not.

Also, number of nacelles has no bearing on whether a ship is classified as a cruiser/escort/science ship, especially when the size of the nacelles themselves vary.

Also, the double-boussard nacelles are the primary reason I love the Stargazer parts. Looks like a Classic Corvette.
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